Strop positioning

[chaffey]

Agree with Benstihl. I done mine about cs38 about five years ago and that was exactly what we were told although that was only what we were told to do for the assessment. Whatever we do afterwards is up to us. Although we were allowed to use it for attachment for a secondary as long as we had the main line on the centre d. (Well said Steve). We had to have secondarys on the front for advancing but could use them on the side for work positioning.

[Killa Ferret]

Thanks for the input guys, the assessor didn't really give any answers to this, he said i was taught by some "old school" trainer / assessor, since then no-one has picked up on my strop until now, i know alot of the lads at my place, if not all of them, well apart from the newbies, work position and advance on the side d's, could be new information that hasn't been passed on. We had to answer questions on the new G55/2 tree categories even though were not working to that yet, also were not allowed to use rope grabs or snap hooks, listen to me ranting, i'll shut up before i go off topic.

 

Dan

[Steve Bullman]

not even 3 way snaps?

[High Scale]

Hmm, not allowed to use rope grabs? That's a new one on me, rope grab with a soft link, if your using a wire core lanyard, was another development enabling you to cut yourself out of such a previously explained situation but I can't see the reasoning behind not using them at all. Snap hooks? not even three way locking ones?

[High Scale]

not even 3 way snaps?

 

Beat me to it.

[john dawson]

OOOH!! Let me guess..................

 

...........some1 who wouldnt know one end of a rope if it came up and slapped em round the face wiv a wet fish, but has no problem insisting your doin it wrong?

 

in most cases it depends on the tree and the method used as to which rings you would use. in a larger open growing tree then yes, both attatchments to your centre d's is fine. in a crappy conifer then maybe easier to advance slowly using both attatchments to side d's whilst standing on the braches?

 

but when choggin down, a flipline from side d's and main rope from centre d's placed lower down is the norm. idealy using an adjustable cambium saver on the main rope to make it safer.

 

no rope grab? but a flipline near live wires is ok?????????

[slack ma girdle]

The probable reason is the possible risk of a widow maker, i.e. the truck splitting as you send out lumps of wood. The splitting can pin you to the tree, and in extreme cases crush you. You are perfectly entitled to use your side rings, but you must back it up with some kind of chocker around the stem. This can be your main line, or a custom made chocker. Some teach that you cross over the strop before you go around the tree, therefore the strop is self chokering in the event of a slip, or being shaken off your spikes. This stops you bouncing down the pole. However this method is a killer on the hips as it pinches.

[Killa Ferret]

The thing is we were all climbing, the folk we contract to did an audit on another patch and found that one guy was climbing without 2.3 and 40, word soon spread, my place didn't even know we needed it, so in there usual fashion stopped folk climbing, then we heard different things about what we can / can't do, to this day i still don't know what i can / can't do, lack of communication.

 

Dan

[slack ma girdle]

The thing is we were all climbing, the folk we contract to did an audit on another patch and found that one guy was climbing without 2.3 and 40, word soon spread, my place didn't even know we needed it, so in there usual fashion stopped folk climbing, then we heard different things about what we can / can't do, to this day i still don't know what i can / can't do, lack of communication.

 

Dan

 

Find out what guideline they are working to, i.e. NPTC or electricity company, and stick to them. That way when they start kick up a fuss, you can show them what you can and can't do as it is in black and white.

We did the same thing with the lack of earths on shut downs, and refused to climb. WPD kick up a big fuss, but when we read their rules to them, there was a lot of muttering, but earths majically appeared and the job was done.