I really do hate Barbed wire.

[Dagmar]

Yes you read correctly, If it had flown into normal wire it would have had a shock but that would have been it, instead it's been hung. I don't think you realize what little wildlife we have left in this country.

 

 

Really? There's loads around here. Badgers are queing up to commit suicde due to TB and we're poisened with foxes. The latest mammel survey shows a huge leap in numbers for some species and I don't just mean the rats!

[Dean Lofthouse]

Badgers and foxes are IMO or around this area, pests Dagmar, we are talking birds of prey etc which most of us look upon as "nice" wildlife

[MasterBlaster]

It's all subjective, mate.

 

The Lord gave us dominion!

 

We shall fence!!!

[bill]

It's all subjective, mate.

 

The Lord gave us dominion!

 

We shall fence!!!

 

 

Heil, mein Führer!

[MasterBlaster]

That's a wise, well thought-out response.

[Dagmar]

Badgers and foxes are IMO or around this area, pests Dagmar, we are talking birds of prey etc which most of us look upon as "nice" wildlife

 

No problem with the first part of your post but the view that 'birds of prey' are nice is a bit simplistic!!!

 

Granted they have an ooh aah factor for the gibbering classes, but anyone who sees on a regular basis the rapacious effect of the unwarrented protected status awarded to these birds would see them as nothing more that a scourge on our wildlife, in their currently uncontrolled state.

 

Visit:

http://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/

 

for a bit of detail.

 

The obvious problem with the figures available is that they are woefully out of date and the money to fund a new round of surveys is not forthcoming. I suspect because it would draw an unpopular conclusion.

 

Perhaps we would do a far better job of wildlife management if we were prepared to act on problem species for the bettrement of others and stopped worrying about how many yoghurt pots we can recycle, hoping that will solve all our environmental problems.

 

For the record, I intensely dislike barbed wire too.

[Dean Lofthouse]

I gamekeep, I don't have a problem with raptors.

 

We lose far more birds to cars and cats than we would ever do to raptors.

 

Even where I shoot in north wales there are plentiful buzzards, I see more rabbit carcasses than I do bird carcasses.

 

If you get too involved in "control" then the protected species doesn't learn to evade predators and become numpties. The more predators there are about, to a certain degree of course the more aware the prey species will become.

 

I think when it comes to song birds there is far to much blame apportioned to predators and not enough blamed on habitat loss due to farming and human activities.

 

Just my observations of course

[Arborist]

It has its uses, when digging out Mink and rabbits you make it in to a cork screw, push it in to the run once your near the quarry twirl it around and pull the quarry out to be despatched.

[Mike Hill]

Dad used to give me five .303 rounds for an Owl,good commerce considering it usually only took one .22 round and a bit of time with a Torch.

 

Ahhh.....real New Zealand:proud: