Need I.D urgent! HELP! tree not fungus!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

hi all, i was chuffed to do my first tree survey today, ive got to hand in my report tonight!

 

problem is the tree, Im not good with ornamentals so i desperetley need some help as i do not wish to look a numpty on my first job!

 

To me its a whitebeam/sorbus of some sort on a graft, there are two growth forms on the tree, suckers at base and the top growth of the tree itself, the tree is definatley grafted, now heres the major confusion for me, it appears to be grafted to what seems like Malus? see the attached image of the two growth forms, right is the root suckering and the more pale pubescent leaves to the left is the tree. there where some crabbie looking fruits stuck in the suckers, bout the size of a large gobstopper but I suspect these fell from the basal suckers not the tree?

 

i havent a clue here guys!

 

[stihllearning]

hi hama,i think your right on both counts,left hand sample appears to be sorbus aria,and right hand sample is a crab wich is a common rootstock for most grafted rosaceae as its the hardyest of the malus's

[stihllearning]

although it has just occurred to me that grafting the two would be pointless as whitbeam survive perfectly well on there own

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

although it has just occurred to me that grafting the two would be pointless as whitbeam survive perfectly well on there own

 

I dont think its a stand beam smaller narrower leaves more serrated too?

[stihllearning]

or is it just juvenile foliage ?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

 

 

[Mesterh]

Looks like a whitebeam to me.

[Dean Lofthouse]

Yep definately Sorbus

 

But no matter, doesn't need id'ing if it's coming down, just carve a number in the trunk with the nose of the 020, and then Tree No 2 down and stump grind

[Giles Hill]

Just note what you see - it's a cultivar whitebeam on a crab apple root stock; the root stock is producing suckers etc.

 

It's probably Sorbus aria lutescens, but the precise cultivar dosen't matter for most types of tree survey.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Just note what you see - it's a cultivar whitebeam on a crab apple root stock; the root stock is producing suckers etc.

 

It's probably Sorbus aria lutescens, but the precise cultivar dosen't matter for most types of tree survey.

 

thaks giles:thumbup: