BS5837 guide book download

[wjotner]

So I did the Arb Association 1 day course for the BS5837:2012. But it didn't cover everything in the book, which means I'll need to get hold of the BSI guide. Its £300 to buy which is insane. 

Can anyone recommend anywhere else a copy can be found online?

[krummholz]

Just Google it with the file extension you want (".pdf") and you'll find a copy pretty quickly 

[krummholz]

Did they mention it being due for revision soon?

 

I also think there is an ongoing issue with the British Standards where professionals feel the price point is excessive and therefore do not purchase access to them. More of an issue with BS3998, but it's also not a great deal of money if it's the standard you're supposedly working to every day.

Edited yesterday at 11:33 by krummholz
clarity and addition

[wjotner]

Thanks I have been googling. But I'm only just starting out with the bs5837,  and the course that I spent £220 didn't cover it all. So considering I haven't got that work coming in yet, the thought of finding another £300 for the guide stings a bit. So looking to find it free/cheap somewhere.

And I've been waiting for the revision and so had put off doing the course for the last 12 months but decided I needed to get moving on this so gave up waiting for them to get their act together.

[Chris at eden]

Google BS5837 PDF. You will see west berks council have put it up online which I am guessing breaches the copyright but nevermind ay!   You won’t learn to do them by reading the standard though.  It will give you the guidance but you then have to come up with a way of doing it yourself.  
 

Which AA course did you do?  The categorisation thing?  That is just part of the surveying.  The real work is in the impact assessment.   It helps to work in a planning dept for a while as you see loads of different reports and approaches.  Treelife do a decent 5837 course but it’s only a day. I did it as part of my level 6 dip with Treelife and you spend a lot of time working on it. 
 

 

[wjotner]

Thanks I'll check out West Berkshire website. Yes I felt the course left me with a lot still to learn. Was only 1 day

I'm going to have to try to get involved with other arb surveyors and try to get some experience that way. I work as a tree inspector for a county council currently, but it's all just risk assessment, no planning stuff.

[Mark J]

2 hours ago, Chris at eden said:

Google BS5837 PDF. You will see west berks council have put it up online which I am guessing breaches the copyright but nevermind ay!   You won’t learn to do them by reading the standard though.  It will give you the guidance but you then have to come up with a way of doing it yourself.  
 

Which AA course did you do?  The categorisation thing?  That is just part of the surveying.  The real work is in the impact assessment.   It helps to work in a planning dept for a while as you see loads of different reports and approaches.  Treelife do a decent 5837 course but it’s only a day. I did it as part of my level 6 dip with Treelife and you spend a lot of time working on it. 
 

 

Exactly this. 
Most publications are easy to find in a digital format online. (xxxxxxxx.pdf)
When I started surveying/consultancy I found a local firm and mostly did the data capture for them while soaking up what happened afterwards. Then I adapted it to my own business model. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Mark J

[Chris at eden]

1 hour ago, wjotner said:

Thanks I'll check out West Berkshire website. Yes I felt the course left me with a lot still to learn. Was only 1 day

I'm going to have to try to get involved with other arb surveyors and try to get some experience that way. I work as a tree inspector for a county council currently, but it's all just risk assessment, no planning stuff.

Most folk start out doing risk surveys, I did, over 20 years ago.  You then work up to planning, subsidence, mortgage, decay detection, etc.  Then eventually expert witness if that’s your thing.  I actually like doing risk surveys again now so kind of come full circle. 5837 is good but if you do it properly it’s pretty time demanding. Most companies churn out generic rubbish though.  I don’t know why, they take time but they are not rocket science.  
 

I assess them for an LPA as an external consultant as they don’t have a TO.  Most of the ones I see are pretty shocking, not all.  I worked as planning TO for 13 years as well and that was the same story.  If you do them right you will get a steady flow of work as you will get a reputation of being no hassle. I.e. you don’t get objections from the LPA.  That is good news for architects and planning consultants. 

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ping me an email. 
 

Cheers 

 

Chris 
 

[krummholz]

@wjotner and the county council you work for doesn't have access to a copy of BS5837? Or is this all extra-curricular