Restricted O License

[Johnsond]

On 04/06/2024 at 07:56, aspenarb said:

 

Its in your interest to get the ex tractor unit downplated, with the fifth wheel removed it would be impossible to get enough weight on the back of the truck to perform a brake test, as a bonus the downplated tractor unit will be a lot cheaper to tax.

 

Bob

Little update on the saga, currently playing e mail ping pong with vosa answering the same questions repeatedly. The fact there have been no structural chassis modifications seems to be something they can’t come to terms with. All online now, not  even an option to talk to someones. Talk about stopping or putting obstacles in front of small  businesses trying to get on. 

[aspenarb]

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Little update on the saga, currently playing e mail ping pong with vosa answering the same questions repeatedly. The fact there have been no structural chassis modifications seems to be something they can’t come to terms with. All online now, not  even an option to talk to someones. Talk about stopping or putting obstacles in front of small  businesses trying to get on. 

 No emails needed, just fill in a vtg10 and launch it back at them

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/645b527f2226ee00130ae540/change-a-hgv-plated-details-or-notify-alterations.pdf

 

Bob

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, aspenarb said:

 No emails needed, just fill in a vtg10 and launch it back at them

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/645b527f2226ee00130ae540/change-a-hgv-plated-details-or-notify-alterations.pdf

 

Bob

 

Done it Bob

Had to resubmit with the online version as it came in part way through the process. The e mails are from 2 different individuals at HGV TECH at VOSA, same questions about 3 times now. Tbey can’t seem ti get there are no modifications to the chassis, the wheelbase or the abs braking system etc 

[aspenarb]

6 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Done it Bob

Had to resubmit with the online version as it came in part way through the process. The e mails are from 2 different individuals at HGV TECH at VOSA, same questions about 3 times now. Tbey can’t seem ti get there are no modifications to the chassis, the wheelbase or the abs braking system etc 

 

Another way to achieve this is to downrate it on its revenue/tax class, only downside is it will still be brake tested on its design weight. Not a problem if you can still find a way to get the weight on there.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64ca1f035c2e6f0013e8d967/v149x1-rates-of-vehicle-tax.pdf

[Johnsond]

6 minutes ago, aspenarb said:

 

Another way to achieve this is to downrate it on its revenue/tax class, only downside is it will still be brake tested on its design weight. Not a problem if you can still find a way to get the weight on there.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64ca1f035c2e6f0013e8d967/v149x1-rates-of-vehicle-tax.pdf

60kva generator will be fixed permanently. 5th wheel will be gone. As I said it was the tester who said it would need to be tested as wheeled plant next time once he knew what was gonna happen to it. Hardest thing is it’s e mails and no voice or person to talk to. It’s no wonder people just say to hell with it and give up. 

[Justme]

On 03/06/2024 at 22:05, William Clifford said:

Dual purpose vehicle aside, going through the gov.uk points:

 

 

You need a licence for a motor vehicle and trailer combination if:

-the motor vehicle and the trailer(s) are plated and the total of their gross plated weights is more than 3,500 kg = Transit and Ifor tipper would be 7T so needs an O liscense? Transit and 750kg chipper would be 4250kg so also needs an O liscense?

-the total unladen weight of the vehicle and trailer combination is more than 1,525 kg = Transit will weigh say 2T and Ifor tipper 800kg so well over 1525kg - so needs an O license? No difference if it's a transit and chipper?

-You do not need an operator’s licence if your trailer’s unladen weight is less than 1,020 kg and you only carry your own goods. = Ok so no O liscense needed as long as it is my own goods - I'm guessing as Ernesto is thinking, this 'exemption' trumps the 1st point of being over 3500kg total?

 

I mainly came here to ask about the O liscense for the 7.5T but was curious when I saw the above on the gov.uk website. @Justme would you know if a restricted liscense is enough for myself and one other driver, moving wood chip from job to tip site and towing hired in equipment occasionally?

 

Restricted ois for own goods so as long a snot doing courier stuff ect you would be ok.

 

There is also a plant exemption that could apply with the chipper BUT you cant have "goods" in the van.