Over worked and under payed

[Cain]

Is that a question?? Or an observation?? Guess your working south of the border ?? Jla1990

Edited January 12 by Cain

[Steven P]

13 minutes ago, dan blocker said:

Aren’t there many tree teams in Edinburgh?

 

Edinburgh is over run with tree surgeons...

 

 

(and he was quoting £1250+ a day... 5x £200 + £250 for the groundy, and in a saturated market too)

Edited January 12 by Steven P

[Cain]

Edinburgh is over run with companies. I have been contracting to a big player for years. Unfortunately had all my eggs in one basket. Done well but not on here to brag about the past. Just trying to move forward but the industry pay doesn’t match what subcontractors put in. You can get a job with a big established firm for not much less money and holidays and kit provided. Just doesn’t make sense. Unfortunately internet chat rooms to many arse scratchers replying with crap responses. I have an idea for the future so think will be leaving the industry soon. Cheers for productive comments. And good luck 🤞 

[Excels1or]

I'm based in Glasgow and were doing alright, 3 man team, usual 3 man set up. What we do is keep a close eye on our profit margin. 

[Cain]

10 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Edinburgh is over run with tree surgeons...

 

 

(and he was quoting £1250+ a day... 5x £200 + £250 for the groundy, and in a saturated market too)

Yes Steven if you have the kit and work ethic you can easily make that. Please refer to my last comment if you wish to have any further response from me. Cheers

[Mick Dempsey]

Ha ha! 
Ask a question, doesn’t like the answers.

Flounces out.

 

[Cain]

26 minutes ago, dan blocker said:

If you average £200 a day subbing but can earn £1000 a day doing your own job then it’s a no brainier. £1000 a day for a tree job for you and a groundy/ 2nd man seems pop star wages. No way can I price at that rate with vehicle, trailer, tracked chipper and mini loader. If those were my day rates I’d get no work. Aren’t there many tree teams in Edinburgh?

It’s all payed for mate. Guess everyone is at different stages 

[Cain]

1 minute ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Ha ha! 
Ask a question, doesn’t like the answers.

Flounces out.

 

My skins thick mate just my head isn’t but if you got some valuable answers from my question your the Man 

[Steven P]

33 minutes ago, Cain said:

I am based in Edinburgh rates are between £180 to £220 a day. How can you make a living wage and supply saws climbing kit update tickets run a van on peanuts?? The jobs dangerous and hard on the body. Don’t we deserve to be making more considering the out lay for all the above and not to mention high risk of injury means no work no money. Ironically I can do one job a week pay a Groundy between £180 and £250 and make more money than I can subing for a week. Just seems ridiculous. And yes I do pay this to Groundy or second climber sometimes more depending on what’s involved and against the job. 

 

 

the UK average wage in December was about £660 a week, 2/3 of your take home, however I think you are suggesting your £200 a day also includes expenses - saws, fuel for saws, travel (after your commute - we all have to commute), safety kit, climbing kit and so on - which your accountant should be able to do before tax.

 

Are my sums right here that your £1k a week gives you £350+ a week in expenses and a below average UK wage?

 

I'm not directly in the business (the company does do some tree stuff), so perhaps a bit naive to the expenses, so how do they build up so much?

[Cain]

5 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

 

the UK average wage in December was about £660 a week, 2/3 of your take home, however I think you are suggesting your £200 a day also includes expenses - saws, fuel for saws, travel (after your commute - we all have to commute), safety kit, climbing kit and so on - which your accountant should be able to do before tax.

 

Are my sums right here that your £1k a week gives you £350+ a week in expenses and a below average UK wage?

 

I'm not directly in the business (the company does do some tree stuff), so perhaps a bit naive to the expenses, so how do they build up so much?

You’re pretty much bang on the money. Not to mention kit needs updated/ replaced. The job is dangerous and surly this must also be taken into account. Finally a productive comment. Also chains and kit is rocketing in price. 
 

thanks 

Edited January 12 by Cain