Day rates: why so cagey?

[Steve Bullman]

Typical conversation between me and a new client (when climbing)

 

client: how much? That’s too expensive!

 

me: have me in for the day, if you’re not happy with my rate at the end of the day then pay me what you think I’m worth, we’ll shake hands and I’ll go on my way with no hard feelings.

 

 

[Steve Bullman]

Incidentally, if you look on the new map of freelancers theres plenty of climbers who haven’t shy’d away from putting their rates out there 

 

https://arbtalk.co.uk/find-a-freelancer/

[Dendrologen]

10 hours ago, Steve Bullman said:

Typical conversation between me and a new client (when climbing)

 

client: how much? That’s too expensive!

 

me: have me in for the day, if you’re not happy with my rate at the end of the day then pay me what you think I’m worth, we’ll shake hands and I’ll go on my way with no hard feelings.

 

 

I like it! I am definitely too soft.  Last time I had that convo, I said sold myself short 😅

Edited September 30, 2022 by Dendrologen

[Steve Bullman]

Just now, Dendrologen said:

I like it! I am definitely too soft.  Last time I had that convo, I said "oh, err, well I'm new to the self employed game, happy to work for less". Guy ended up giving me more than we agreed at the end of the day, as he said it was not enough... 😅

Feel free to steal that 😀

[Dendrologen]

Just now, Steve Bullman said:

Feel free to steal that 😀

Thanks, I intend to! 😂

[Dendrologen]

2 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Incidentally, if you look on the new map of freelancers theres plenty of climbers who haven’t shy’d away from putting their rates out there 

 

https://arbtalk.co.uk/find-a-freelancer/

Blimey,  that's grown since I last looked!!

[Steve Bullman]

2 minutes ago, Dendrologen said:

Blimey,  that's grown since I last looked!!

I’m plugging away at it! 😀

[Dendrologen]

Sod all Devon folk yet though, sadly, Steve. Perhaps if I ad myself, I won't be able to put the phone down!

 

Maybe I should invest in a machine, can charge more to sit in a cab all day getting fat!

[Chipperclown]

2 hours ago, Dendrologen said:

I have had to reduce my rate because people have told me that it's steep.  I think they may have been manipulating me though due to my naivety. Others have accepted without question. I have found these conversations very difficult.  I feel what I expect is reasonable based on my skill level/set and overheads.  I need the work at the moment, so I don't feel I'm in the driving seat

 

You are not in the driving seat as you say, you an employee/subcontractor.

 

Not sure how long you have been subcontracting yourself out but knowing your own value/worth is one of the most important factors to setting your daily rate. I would suggest allowing others to set your rate if you have plenty of experience is the wrong thing to do.

 

[Steve Bullman]

1 hour ago, Dendrologen said:

Sod all Devon folk yet though, sadly, Steve. Perhaps if I ad myself, I won't be able to put the phone down!

 

Maybe I should invest in a machine, can charge more to sit in a cab all day getting fat!

Well it’s free so you don’t have much to lose