Abseiling with grigri and prusik knot

[carlos]

if you have to move your rope around the tree whilst your climbing then all those knots may get stuck which isnt great.

also in the event of a wasp or bee attack you may not want to have to undo all the knots on the way down, unlikely i know.

[Joris]

  On 05/04/2022 at 20:31, carlos said:

if you have to move your rope around the tree whilst your climbing then all those knots may get stuck which isnt great.

also in the event of a wasp or bee attack you may not want to have to undo all the knots on the way down, unlikely i know.

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Thats true!

so one stopper knot, grigri and prusik is safe enough in your opinion?

[benedmonds]

  On 05/04/2022 at 20:04, Joris said:

Is it more dangerous with knots?

I just make them to prevent a bigger free fall

 

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I think probably it is more dangerous. Lots of instances where you might want to get out of a tree quick or with one hand. It's  certainly not safer. It's just not required.

[Joris]

  On 05/04/2022 at 20:43, benedmonds said:

I think probably it is more dangerous. Lots of instances where you might want to get out of a tree quick or with one hand. It's  certainly not safer. It's just not required.

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That makes sense, thank you!

[carlos]

  On 05/04/2022 at 20:38, Joris said:

Thats true!

so one stopper knot, grigri and prusik is safe enough in your opinion?

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sorry i cant comment on a grigri as a havent used one.

you could try and hunt out some other recreational climbers in your area, might be a good way to learn and fast track your climbing skills

[Ledburyjosh]

I am a frequent gri gri user in rock climbing. I've abseiled alot on one and never backed it up. I dont belive they need it.

You could use it in a moving rope set up to decend. Either over a branch or use a cadmium saver. Petzl dont suggest backing it up like this. Link below.

https://m.petzl.com/INT/en/Sport/Self-lowering?ProductName=GRIGRI

[Ledburyjosh]

https://m.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Multi-pitch-rappelling-with-a-single-rope?ProductName=PUR-LINE-6-mm#:~:text=With%20a%20GRIGRI%2C%20it%20is,only%20for%20retrieving%20the%20rope.

Petzl also have no back up recommendations for abseiling a single line.

So I'd say scrap the prussik and knots below and just go on the gri gri

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

I used gri gri, never backed it, still a live, hovever I prefer rope on rope stuff, so I think just use grigri or prussik, or figure 8,enjoy climb, don't make it over complicated, or use 2 ropes then. Imagine you climbing old Pine tree, they have short sharp dry sticks, you got injured, you bleeding hardly, and there u have prussik, grigri, and god damn knots below you, you will die on that rope safely 😇, 

[Marc Lewis]

Or you could lose the grigri and climb on the prussik loop.

[SouthSoundTree]

A Petzl Rig has a panic stop feature not found in a GriGri. 

 

 

 

Why not just use 3 ropes and three independent devices? 

Is 3 enough while rec climbing? 

 

I am not serious.

 

Is tree climbing fun with all that worry?

 

 

 

 

My take, get a regular, modern climbing device, not a GriGri or Rig. 

 

In 30 plus years of climbing, I haven't experienced these concerns, and I'm known for my safety-sense.