Pine, but which?

[iamjulian]

Lots of branches down this morning. Came across these two bits. Are pine species too similar to easily identify? Both two needle pines, but clearly different trees. Would love to identify them.  Thanks in advance for any suggestions! 

[AJStrees]

Hard to tell sizes. Could be Scots, black or lodgepole but would have to check the cone sizes and length of needles.

[openspaceman]

7 minutes ago, AJStrees said:

Hard to tell sizes. Could be Scots, black or lodgepole but would have to check the cone sizes and length of needles.

yes and a decent view of the buds. The one on the left has the blue tinge of a healthy scots pine

[iamjulian]

Thank you. Here is a view of the buds. The one on the left (Scots Pine?) has needles 6cm and the cones are about 5cm long, 3cm wide. The smaller one has needles 4cm long, and cones 4cm long, 2cm wide.

[openspaceman]

The bud at the front looks scots

 

The paper  curled scales on the back one corsican