Forst st6 p

[danroker1987]

Hello all 
I hope everyone is well !! 

 

having a bit of trouble with this machine not wanting to start and only starting when it wants too , all lights come on and all sensors seem to be ok . Could start after 20 turns  of the key or could be on the button 

any help appreciated 

 

thank you 

[Mick Dempsey]

I have found Redwood to be very helpful on the phone, usually an engineer will walk through any issue with you.

 

They did have a big issue with faulty ignition barrels, do you know how to short the starter solenoid?

[danroker1987]

Just now, Mick Dempsey said:

I have found Redwood to be very helpful on the phone, usually an engineer will walk through any issue with you.

 

They did have a big issue with faulty ignition barrels, do you know how to short the starter solenoid?

Yes I have spoke with redwood And been through all the relevant procedures and they do not know what it is .ive notified them that the bonet bump stops have basically peeled off the fiberglass . Sent numerous photos to them and have basically been ignored . I’m assuming as there not willing to provide a new bonet  just because of that . Either way I’m making sure the sensor pad is lined up when I turn the key but still nothing 

 

no I don’t know how to short the starter solenoid 

[Mick Dempsey]

All you have to do to check the bonnet bump stops is put a 17mm socket over the sensor. At least that’s the case on the ST8.

 

I will have a look on YouTube for the starter solenoid thingy..

[danroker1987]

1 minute ago, Mick Dempsey said:

All you have to do to check the bonnet bump stops is put a 17mm socket over the sensor. At least that’s the case on the ST8.

 

I will have a look on YouTube for the starter solenoid thingy..

Yeah weve got that , even though the sensors working still not starting . Thank you mick 

[tim361]

I’ve got a Greenmech with the same engine. Mine was becoming really hard to start until

one day it wouldn’t do anything. One of the coil packs had cracked open and stopped working. All sorted by GM under warranty but took a lifetime to get parts from Briggs and Stratton

[Mick Dempsey]

I think @Ty Korrigan had a similar issue with that Briggs&Stratton engine, I’ve sent out the bat signal.

[Ty Korrigan]

Now then...

 Faulty high pressure fuel pump.

Mine would start fine warm but very difficult cold and never when hot.

We quickly figured out turning over the engine to be a fruitless excercise so just left it to cool.

@Pete B who diagnosed the fault remotely.

Lack of pressure in pump.

A simple pressure test can confirm this. Doesn't require a loss of many psi for the starting to be effected.

Sadly GM could neither send me tbe part under warranty or sell me the part.

I had to go through the official Briggs dealer network.

None of those in the North West of France had recieved training/approval to work on the engine.

Meanwhile we soldiered on, sometimes waiting 20min with the bonnet open and blower running for it to cool sufficiently before an ambient starting temperature was reached.

Eventually Briggs put me in touch with a dealer 90kms away in Normandy who had recieved Briggs approval.

I won't go too deeply into the farce which followed.

It was as I had previously predicted in an frustrated email to GM in which I exprimed my reluctance to leave my chipper with a dealer having what seemed at the start to be an intermittant fault.

I would have a fight on my hands to get it repaired.

In the end I was 4 weeks without a chipper for a part I could have bought for £150 from Briggs bits and fit myself.

GM's hands tied, the engines are covered by a separate warranty but Briggs France dealers have been glacial in reacting to these new engines so aftersales is thin on the ground.

Couple this with Briggs France convoluted supply change and the French national character trait 'arrogance', a mornings work turned into 4 expensive and inconvenient chipperless weeks and 5 x 180km round trips.

Sorry but fuck dealers (apart from GA Groundcare) and fuck your fucking hollow no quibble warranties.

People did what they could, PeteB, Jason in service and support and Spencer in parts offering to repair it at GM if I brought it back to the UK (a tempting but very expensive option) and surprisingly helpfull was one of the 2 guys who run the Briggs Paris office who I suspect not to be of French origin which is why he wasn't an unreactive twunt.

The other guy is written in my little black book of 'indifferent bastards I have known'

I'd have more chance trying to obtain parts for a home build V2 rocket and probably obtain them quicker too.

Anyway... 

 Good luck with it.

    Stuart