Why do it this way?

[mattsccm]

First, I don't dangle from trees so am asking purely from a nosey point of view.

Whilst I am sure there are other ways (SRT), why do many tree workers poke a rope over a limb then use that limb as the pulley and pull themselves up rather than fixing the rope at the ground and jugging up? Sorry climber /caver not cutter. Seems a lot of friction and rope wear as well as slow. 

[billpierce]

What do you mean fixing rope at bottom and jugging up.

Obvs there is friction or rope over branch but also gives you a 2 to 1 pulling yersel upsie

[stihlmadasever]

Your refering to ddrt vs srt

Ddrt being hauling yourself up with the rope over a branch,fork etc

Plus points to thats is its easier to pull 50% of your weight and you can use different items to reduce friction at the tie in point.

Srt the climber moves on the rope while the rope is stationary.

Srt base ties,rope over a fork,branch and the climber moves up the rope by the use of ascenders and a friction system of choice.

Pros and cons to both.

Most are using srt for ascents(usually larger trees) and ddrt to "work" the tree.

Srt is becoming more popular and is being used more to work the tree through redirects.

Edited September 15, 2019 by stihlmadasever

[Steve Bullman]

16 hours ago, mattsccm said:

First, I don't dangle from trees so am asking purely from a nosey point of view.

Whilst I am sure there are other ways (SRT), why do many tree workers poke a rope over a limb then use that limb as the pulley and pull themselves up rather than fixing the rope at the ground and jugging up? Sorry climber /caver not cutter. Seems a lot of friction and rope wear as well as slow. 

This is the way its always been done, and whilst individuals and some independent trainers in the industry and moving forward onto more efficient systems, the main training institutions(colleges etc) are still teaching 30 year old climbing systems.

[mattsccm]

Seems reasonable. As I said, just being nosey and have climbed and watched the inefficient techniques  some climber use compared with the SRT that  big pitch cavers use. 

Watched some one de limb a big Scots pine the other day and it seemed so slow to pull himself up uing the branch as the pulley. 

Ta

[Steve Bullman]

1 hour ago, mattsccm said:

Seems reasonable. As I said, just being nosey and have climbed and watched the inefficient techniques  some climber use compared with the SRT that  big pitch cavers use. 

Watched some one de limb a big Scots pine the other day and it seemed so slow to pull himself up uing the branch as the pulley. 

Ta

Until recently there wasn’t any one device that allowed for a climber to move up and down on a single line without a lot of changing of gear, hence caving type gear wasn’t adopted