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  • Article: Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

    Po!la*d-a four letter word?

     

    One could be forgiven for thinking it is! I am almost afraid to mention the word in today’s arboricultural scene, but am I the only one who thinks it a little ironic that we now revere the very trees that where pruned in such a way we might now lynch those doing it? Is pollarding really to be considered the ultimate sin? Or is there just a lack of insight into the merits and de merits of each case, and a fear of retribution for going out on a limb and making the choice. At this time it’s a brave man that suggests “sensitive pruning” isn’t always the right approach. As a climber of 20 odd years I have done my fair share of old and veteran trees, and had to pollard (oops, blasphemy!) some for spurious reasons, not having been the one responsible for the job specification. If there is one thing I have gained through my successes and failures it is insight, a “feel” for the tree and its life from seed to senescence, its grace and ultimate glory as a grandfather of time.

    Thanks to the likes of Neville Fay and Ted green MBE the arb world is more enlightened on the whole subject of ancient trees and veteranisation, and the world seems to be awakening to a new understanding. We have come almost full circle, we grew a distain for harsh techniques and Hepting/ Shigo and others exposed the issues with poor pruning and treatments. A refined approach was born and some of us went on to become masters of the art in fine tip reductions in respect of this new knowledge. We stopped over lifting tree canopies and crucified the “over thinners” we mobbed the “purveyor’s of pollard”. While all this was going on a few of us “labourers” where reading up and taking notes, watching the debates and doing what we where told was the “best practice”.

     

    “I’m not suggesting we abandon this approach, preservation of amenity is a different game altogether”

     

     

    Now it is our turn to give some input to the debate, and I am certain there will be many “old school” climbers ready to join in. The one thing that is blindingly obvious to me is that very little respect is paid to the “experience factor” it is all well and good educating yourself and gaining a degree in arboriculture, but you can never learn from books what you learn by feel; and trees, though they may be the substance (paper) of text books, rarely are trees text book in nature. I mean no disrespect to the “consultants” but you really should pay more heed to the views and experience of climbers. The older climbers have a body of experience gained from a time when we just got on with it, rounding over, pollarding etc. We might never consider doing it these days but we know HOW to do it and how to do it well, skills that are being lost on a generation of climbers who only know the way it is today.

    What this will mean in a decade or two is that people with the very skills the veteran brigade seek to re learn will be lost, how hard can you prune? Where can we make that cut for the best compromise of vascular support and minimal dysfunction? Have we not learnt just how resilient trees can be? Decay and dysfunction are part and parcel of a trees old age, be that from natural progressive infections or via pruning wounds, they are the same end result so why fear them? I am sick to my teeth of being told I can not do this and I can not do that, when I have all my life proven time and time again that it CAN be done, but it has to be with “insight” I fear if we don’t settle the debate soon a whole gap will appear in the generations of veterans as the old ones die while we are all trying to “rediscover” the old ways. The Japanese have been “veteranising” for a thousand years, albeit on a different scale, the principles are the same. The art of producing a miniature ancient tree of visual stature and form is the same art required to recreate the ancient pollards and veterans of the medieval era. You just have to think BIG.

    I have seen some ridiculous attempts at re creating the pollard, and some pretty dire attempts at recession pruning, so bad in fact I doubt Mr X in his white transit with traces of tarmac could do a worse job! I can no longer remain silent walking the old deer parks and seeing trees unmulched unfenced and unloved, they are as much a part of our green and pleasant lands history as any building or monument yet they are left to fend for themselves much of the time despite all the current knowledge available. We need to re-evaluate the pollard fast and to think of pollarding as an option for those old trees considered for felling due to various defects, infections or even subsidence issues. I do not mean the way its done on LA budgets either for those thinking along those lines!

    Some people in the field are of the opinion that pollarding was carried out when the tree was young and while this may be true in today’s scene, it was certainly not the case in the medieval period or Tudor period. I am well aware that there exist few records of the pollarding of old. However the tree is a record of its life, it tells us like a book of a thousand pages what events took place in its life, and when. One only has to look at those old pollards of Burnham to see that pollarding was a brutal practice; the evidence is in the hollow centres. We only have to look at compartmentalisation to see how large the tree was when it was Pollarded. The now hollow stems are the new wood that formed over the dysfunctional core. While the living cambium continued to grow over the now dead part, the demons of D, death, decay and dysfunction (Shigo), moved in and had a tasty supper of lignin and/or cellulose.

    I think there was two ways possibly three of pollarding, and certain that Arborist’s of the time much like the good ones today had a “feel” for their art. I am certain that a tree that had previously been un-pollarded would have had the two major lower limbs left on and been decapitated above this point. This guaranteed that the tree would continue to grow and survive the loss of its head, like the “monarchs without head” a form that is made perfectly naturally. We have to realise that in those times text books where the preserve of the wealthy, these where craftsman whose skills where passed on to a new generation of apprentices. They also had the luxury of more trees to make mistakes with, if one or two died it was no big deal, it made good firewood! Today if we gambled with one of say three oaks on a site we would be justifiably lynched if they was to die from such a brutal practice.

    Now going back to the monarch without head, I am certain that once good re growth was established and of much more slender proportions the now only substantial wood left was also highly desirable and those limbs originally left in place where now cut back to some re growth on their length. I am certain it was this process that created those extraordinarily wide shoulders or “pollard heads” we now see especially in the Burnham beech trees. This is also evident in the way the decay columns extend into the larger thicker sections of these old pollard heads.

    This brings me to the whole demons of D thing again, and I think we need to understand these processes far better if we are to re create our heritage trees for future generations to revere. Its an area of heated debate, and an area that is still to this day largely misunderstood and understudied. I hope to convince the sceptical of the role fungi play in the longevity of trees; this is a co evolutionary process that has gone on for millennia. I have a disdain for the word attack when it comes to fungi, and prefer to think of it as taking advantage of a situation. As with all natural organisms and systems they have a role and a purpose, they are essential and should not be viewed as an “enemy”

     

    I think there may have been a time in history, and not so long ago, when mans activities actualy enhanced Bio diversity, rather than eliminated it. We are losing our way, its time to re think our strategies.

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    I aint so sure, its all about making the very most of your products really, imagine if I was to fell an oak for subsidance tommorow, and was charging 1500 quid to fell and remove all arrisings.

     

    so i am up, got the money for two days, so lets get a saw mill round the back, cut some planks store em for a while, and oh thats a nice burr well lets put an advert on e bay some bowl carver will have that.

     

    or lets winch that walnut root out they will have that for rifle butts etc etc etc

     

    it just requires imagination, look what these boys do with a carving tip! awsome stuff

     

    the rd you talk of,i am well down mate, i have been heading this way for the last 4 years, but the 1500quid you talk of is on a page in a forum, these jobs dont really exist, i plan on having my own woodyard selling everything from bags of sawdust to woodcarvings worth a few k, but unless someone gives me a 100k to get it going so i can hit the market i want with out jeopordising my families home and my health it isnt going to happen. I am a friend of woodmad, i have taking his lead for a few years now, he hs always been one step ahead if you ask me, but all these things cost money, big money. I have had finance up to the hilt for machinery, i have paid wages, ran in overdraft and not slept a descent nights sleep for years. I have went from stressed out contractor to chilled out hedge cutter, firewood guy. It is a great idea, especially in your head, BUT bottom line is £££££, i have lost loads of jobs recently to guys with saws, anyone can cut off a branch or sell somefirewood, and as long as there is wars, murderers, poverty, famine and basically honest folk struggling to put food on the table after the last few years of boom then bust, then i think you can kiss arboriculture good bye for a few years, and lets face it, its a made up profession anyway i think, arb has went bigtime in the last 8 years, why is that??because folk could charge what they, when they want because folk had bundles of money and could afford to spend money on extravigances. Energy prices will go through the roof, firewood will become cheaper and the woodlands will get ravished, there isnt a stick left on our beaches, every day guys that have been paid off are out with bow saws and b+q chainsaws trying to earn a pound, and since when was the woodcutter of days gone bye a highly inteligent filocipher, he was an unqualified guy with a strong back, have a look through old pics back in the turn of the century and look at the treework, they werent target pruning or cutting back to the collar, they were doing what we all do, cutting where it is the easiest. :001_smile:

    Edited by Stephen Blair

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    the rd you talk of,i am well down mate, i have been heading this way for the last 4 years, but the 1500quid you talk of is on a page in a forum, these jobs dont really exist, i plan on having my own woodyard selling everything from bags of sawdust to woodcarvings worth a few k, but unless someone gives me a 100k to get it going so i can hit the market i want with out jeopordising my families home and my health it isnt going to happen. I am a friend of woodmad, i have taking his lead for a few years now, he hs always been one step ahead if you ask me, but all these things cost money, big money. I have had finance up to the hilt for machinery, i have paid wages, ran in overdraft and not slept a descent nights sleep for years. I have went from stressed out contractor to chilled out hedge cutter, firewood guy. It is a great idea, especially in your head, BUT bottom line is £££££, i have lost loads of jobs recently to guys with saws, anyone can cut off a branch or sell somefirewood, and as long as there is wars, murderers, poverty, famine and basically honest folk struggling to put food on the table after the last few years of boom then bust, then i think you can kiss arboriculture good bye for a few years, and lets face it, its a made up profession anyway i think, arb has went bigtime in the last 8 years, why is that??because folk could charge what they, when they want because folk had bundles of money and could afford to spend money on extravigances. Energy prices will go through the roof, firewood will become cheaper and the woodlands will get ravished, there isnt a stick left on our beaches, every day guys that have been paid off are out with bow saws and b+q chainsaws trying to earn a pound, and since when was the woodcutter of days gone bye a highly inteligent filocipher, he was an unqualified guy with a strong back, have a look through old pics back in the turn of the century and look at the treework, they werent target pruning or cutting back to the collar, they were doing what we all do, cutting where it is the easiest. :001_smile:

     

    thats the biggest load of rubbish ive heard to come from you wee brother!

     

    You my friend have been beaten, and it shows.

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    i am not thick but the year i thinned out 2 trees they blew over in a storm a few months later, one landed on a main rd during the day and the other miseed a house by a cats whiskers, they were both root bound, one was about fo ft high and the other was about 3 feet in diameter. i never recomended the works, i originally wanted to fell them but i was convinced by the customer to thin them out, there were no visual signs of root problems above ground. :thumbdown:

     

    i have no doubt that there wood have been obvious signs that there was issues in the rooting area, be that ground obstructions to roots, or obvious compaction leading to the same, there is always a series of clues as to what is going on in a trees life, environment, body language. etc

     

    and i have to stop spelling would with wood!

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    thats the biggest load of rubbish ive heard to come from you wee brother!

     

    You my friend have been beaten, and it shows.

     

    how am i beaten??and i never called anyone a hick, i am unqualified and had a strong back

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    I think many of the members here do look at all avenues re: "waste" disposal. Loggable material is logged, many plank decent timber from butts, or source a buyer, carvers carve, turners turn, and chip is sold for pellet fuel. It maybe a new take on an old theme, but it is out there, and it is growing, maybe through necessity to turn a penny when pruning work is slack, maybe to make a bigger profit, or simply to buy a couple of pints down the pub. None of this is anything new, and even lads who've just come from college enjoy trying selling a product made with their hands and a few tools.

     

    you say that but are you in a more rural type environment?

     

    I can promise you most of the firms in london and surounding counties waste ALOT

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    i have no doubt that there wood have been obvious signs that there was issues in the rooting area!

     

    how can you say that?you werent there, you will never be there and all signs of that tree are now gone, roots aswell, its now a driveway i believe(well one of them) maybe this is why you are saying this, you cant be proved wrong..

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    how am i beaten??and i never called anyone a hick, i am unqualified and had a strong back

     

    but you DID say that these men were basicaly too... mmm stupid to have any idea what they was doing, that they just cut where ever it was less work!

     

    and kind of my point that everyone thinks these guys just went out there and hacked away willy nilly!

     

    I am certain they knew as much abou the way wood/fungi and the ecosystem functioned as any of us out there doing it today, and probably a LOT more. maybe not biologicaly speaking, but being aware of something and managing it through practice and skill is different to having had an education.

     

    trial and error, you soon learn what works and what dont. and what efects you have and there would have been other things that as a consequence became a bonus

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    i never said anyone was stupid, i said that folk take the easy option, maybe not everyone, but most, i have worked with guys that were in their 80's, and they would tell me stuff that they had done, their dads had done, and their dads before them, so really they could give you a history lesson over the last 100-150 years, at no time would they ever discuss the amazing pride of the job, they did enjoy it, but back in those days it was hard living, working like hell for a gentry land owner with a hard assed factor cracking the whip, they worked in poor conditions for very little money, and if they got the tree down that was the main thing, any way possible, most of the stories were about near misses and disasters ending up with them getting drunk during the day..:001_smile:

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