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  • Arborist Knots | Category: Mid-line Knots


    Moth - How to tie

    A mid-line knot.

    Moth Knot in Arboriculture

    Uses: A mid-line knot for use in various tree surgery applications.

     

    Pros and Cons: No industry-specific data available.


    Alternative Knots:

    • Farmer's Loop
    • Clove Hitch
    • Alpine Butterfly

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    All Mid-line Knots from A-Z

    Alpine Butterfly

    The Alpine Butterfly can be used to form a secure mid-line loop, which due to its symmetrical form can be loaded from either end.
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    Bowline on a Bight

    A great knot for quickly tying a secure and dependable knot mid-line.
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    Clove hitch

    A quick mid-line knot for various applications
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    Man harness knot

    A mid-line knot used for climbing or hauling.
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    Marlin spike

    Most commonly used to send tools up to climber.
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    Moth

    A mid-line knot.
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