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Hi, this ad is my first venture into Arbtalk. I usually enjoy the to and fro of the comments! The mill has just been listed on eBay with a BUY NOW of £1300 but I am open to reasonable offers. Viewing for serious buyers is encouraged. Thanks for reading the ad. Steve This used sawmill is my LOGOSOL M8, 5 metres long. Included are a log ramp, saw carriage,winder mechanism, clamps and other useful accessories made by me. The mill is secured to a pressed galvanised steel base of my design which gives it extra rigidity and stability. It can also be used to tow the mill on one’s own property (not for road use). Logosol recommends fixing the mill to wooden sleepers for extra stability but the steel frame is much nicer and more effective. I have used this mill to make timber for my own projects, including fine furniture, gates, fencing, posts, doors, garden boxes, chicken shed, woodshed, retaining wall, and several more. It has had moderate private use and is in full working order with no corrosion. There are a couple of dings on the support poles and a few very small nicks on the slide rail, all filed and smooth. It is assembled and ready to go to work. I have used a Stihl MS660 saw with a 25” bar and a variety of ripping chains very successfully. This unit does not come with the saw because I will use that with my NEW LOGOSOL F2+ and a 28” bar. I have chosen the F2+ because I have a number of much larger trees which the F2+ is designed for. I stuck with LOGOSOL because of the exceptional service and product design and reliability. It has been a very useful tool and saved a large amount of money buying store lumber. I saw primarily oak, ash, larch and Scots pine. The M8 eats them all. You can saw EXACTLY the dimension you want rather than accepting from standard dimensions in the store. You can saw EXACTLY how you want the timber to come out. For example I generally quarter saw my oak which is ideal for furniture. The surface finish on the wood is exceptional and better than a bandsaw mill generally. A bandsaw mill is quicker but when the blade starts to wear it flutters and wanders and you need to plane it more than a chainsaw which is always perfectly flat. This means the ¼” kerf of the logosol is only a little more than the ⅛” kerf of a band saw. The M8 can handle up to 20” diameter logs easily, but, you can go much larger with ingenuity although there is more handling. A 4 metre log takes from about 90 seconds to 2 minutes to saw through and through. This depends on species, water content, degree of wear on the chain and chain type, mainly. My M8 uses a homemade gadget at the end of the guard bar to provide ‘bar nose steering’ which is very useful and is included. Overall this is a very nice mill with no surprises which will give a lot of enjoyment. Please message me with any questions, Thankyou. LINKS Here is a link to a LOGOSOL video on the M8. Spares and accessories are also available for it if needed from Logosol or their UK distributor Davies Implements.https://youtu.be/F2lmY8GITuQ?si=s32-OKqMNFJukRQS Here is a link to the comprehensive M8 manual. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U5u8uWkupy06NJmQtPnaQXnuw6vNn0TA/view?usp=sharing MORE INFORMATION Below are some snippets from other websites which I did not write, but they reflect my great experience with this mill. Swedish, portable, robust, exceptional accuracy The M8 works with any brand of chainsaw. This has to have two screws to secure the bar and chain. It is recommended to use a powerful chainsaw, as Stihl MS660. This sawing work with currents designed to cut deep (current ripping), with thinner, and each cut only lost 6 mm thick on wood. simple to use - and easy to maintain. Any dimension, in ¼ inch, 6mm increments. No wavy cuts as with bandsaws when blades start to dull. Saws all types of wood accurately The portable sawmill Logosol M8 is made of extremely sturdy anodized aluminum – Toothed ramps allow easy placement of the log on the cutting table. After, the pulley fitted the cutting table allow to raise the log to a height that allows a good working posture. The compact design makes it even more when it is necessary to turn the log on the table, to initiate new cut boards are ready to waist height, making it easier to remove them. portable sawmill or fixed With the portable sawmill Logosol M8 and Stihl MS660 chainsaw can cut five meters per minute from a beam with 15 cm thick. • Durable surface, that repels dust. never rusts. • cutting table equipped with pulleys to lift the logs to a working height confostável. Easily adjust so that the pitch (the heart of the log is parallel, easily takes out flare. Can cust slices at angles too. Length 5,5 m (18 feet) Bed toro 50 cm (20″ ergonomic construction The portable sawmill M8 has been designed with the user in mind. Everything is at the right height for long hours without damaging the spine. It is easy to use - no need to push the blade through the wood. he torus is placed on two supports of the cutting table, which can be moved up and down. This unique fine-cut current produces a surprisingly smooth surface. This thin stream removes only 6 mm (¼”) the toro. Sharp with ease, each chain may even saw 7 cubic meters of sawn timber (boards). Safety ¼” or ⅛” increments instruction manual 34 Full pages with assembly instructions,NO VALUE SPECIFIED
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Is there anyone in the Berkshire or South Oxfordshire who could give me some experience/teach me about milling (portable or chainsaw) and drying? Maybe in exchange for some labouring? I would like to start producing dried timber (mainly hardwood) on a small scale both for myself and other makers/craftspeople. I will be doing cs30 training in a couple of weeks but am coming at this from a user of timber and have very little experience at present. Part of my plan is also to build a solar powered kiln. Unfortunately I'm the wrong side of 50 but still fit and strong and keen to learn. Any offer of help would be appreciated no matter how small. Thanks Steve
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Made this page on ripping chain which is something I've been meaning to do for years but never got round to it. Mainly all the questions on ripping chain tend to be the same so hopefully this covers the subject pretty comprehensively - however if there is anything missing or not answered please post and I'll add it in. It's copied and pasted from the CSB website so not sure if the links will work or not. Chainsaw ripping chain comes in several different sizes so please select your chain from the options below: . .404 .063 Ripping Chains 3/8 Ripping Chains .325 Ripping Chains 3/8 lo pro Ripping Chains . . Ripping chain is chainsaw chain designed specifically for cutting with the grain. Ripping chain is always micro chisel or semi chisel chain which features a re configured cutting angle of 10 degrees. . With Oregon and Stihl ripping chain this is the only difference - the chain is not made differently or any different from 'normal' chain. Only the cutting angle is different. Granberg ripping chain has been modified further - this configuration features x2 scoring cutters followed by x2 clearing cutters. The easiest way to sharpen this is by making all the cutters 10 degrees however if you wish you can sharpen the scoring cutters to 20 degrees and the clearing cutters to 5 degrees. Please bear in mind this process is carried out manually on a grinding machine at the factory and so some of the scoring cutters can become hardened in the process. This makes them very hard to sharpen using a round file and some sort of grinder may be required. . [caption id="attachment_19422" align="aligncenter" width="500"] Idenitfy Parts Of The Chain[/caption] . You need Ripping Chain to work with a chainsaw mill. It is dangerous to use ripping chain for ordinary cross cutting purposes as kick back could be more violent. . FAQS on Ripping Chain Can I simply adapt my existing chain to become a 'ripping chain'. Yes you can but only if it is of the chisel or micro chisel variety. If you are not sure what type of chain you have then first job is to identify it. You can ID exactly which chain you have using our Essential Info pages here and the Chain ID table found here. Now you know what make and size chain you have look down the chain at the outer profile - check the pictures below of the Oregon 27R and Stihl 46RCX). Does your chain profile look similar to this? If so it is micro or semi chisel chain. If you have semi or micro chisel chain you can alter the angle from 30 degrees to 10 degrees. Chisel chain has a very right angled appearance while micro or semi chisel chain as a more rounded appearance. Remember chisel chain is no use to convert into ripping chain. Check the end profile and confirm if you have chisel chain - it will look something like the below picture. What happens if I use chisel chain or 'ordinary' cross cut chain to rip timber? You can use it for one or two jobs but it is not recommended. You will find the vibration is a lot higher and the quality of the surface a lot rougher than if you used dedicated ripping chain. The harder the wood the more pf these issues make themselves felt. Skip link and hyper skip link ripping chain - pros and cons For longer bars (bars that are over 3 foot) you may consider using skip link chain on your chainsaw mill. Skip link chain has an extra tie strap between each cutter. This means there are less cutters taking 'bites' out of the wood, more space for chip waste to be expelled from the cut and less resistance on the chain so chain speed is kept up. So why doesn't everyone use it all the time? Because if you have a shorter bar and plenty of power you have less teeth cutting and so your cut will actually be slower and rougher than full comp chain. So it only starts coming into it's own as bars become longer. What chain sizes are available? There are now very few chains available in full skip that are micro chisel - you have Oregon 27AX which is full skip chain in 30 degree cross cut format. So you would have to alter the angle of this from 30 degrees to 10 degrees to make a skip link ripping chain. The other option is Oregon 27RX. This is known as hyperskip ripping chain with x10 tie straps between each pair of cutting teeth! This comes pre sharpened to 10 degrees. Lo pro ripping chain - pros and cons Similar to skip link chain 3/8 lo pro ripping chain is not for everyone. However most chainsaw millers are always looking out for a longer bar to go on their existing chainsaw being that chainsaw is generally the most expensive part on a chainsaw milling system. 3/8 lo pro chain takes a very slightly thinner cut (around 15% to 20% thinner) than the larger standard 3/8 chain. This allows a smaller powerhead to drive a longer bar. PROS Faster milling speeds Smaller kerf lost as sawdust Longer bars can be used on smaller chainsaws without straining the powerhead CONS Lo pro ripping chain will suffer more chain stretch than standard 3/8 ripping chain Stay sharp ability is reduced due to smaller area doing the cutting Lo pro ripping chain is not as strong as standard 3/8 ripping chain - more chance of snapping particularly if abused Who makes 3/8 lo pro ripping chains? Oregon makes 91R - good for small chainsaws but not suitable on larger set ups. Stihl makes 63PMX which is an excellent chain which gives superb performance straight out of the box and works well on larger set ups. Granberg adapted 3/8 lo pro ripping chain is made from a Carlton chain and also provides good strong performance. . Differences between various manufacturers ripping chains There are no concrete answers to this question. A little like which chainsaws are the best Stihl or Husqvarna. Suffice it to say if one was far better than the other then everyone would use the same chain. But they do not and really it is simply a case of which one you think works best for you. . Sharpening Technique and best practice Within normal chainsaw use sharpening is one of the most important aspects of using a chainsaw. In chainsaw milling it becomes crucial. There is nothing new to be learned except to reinforce the basics of - consistent tooth length, consistent angle, correct chain shape, correct depth gauge setting. Just getting one aspect wrong can slow your chainsaw milling to half the speed you could be going. Quickly touching up a chain and chainsaw milling will cause poor results. Most people would benefit using some sort of fixed guide that controls tooth length. File size and where it is placed against the tooth controls the side plate angle and shape of the tooth. All chain sharpening principles remain the same - only the angle is different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMYnxtCYW8g
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This has been in development with our new first cut systems. We wanted a chainsaw mill that was improved and better than anything else on the market. Features: Manufactured in the UK in Devon Rack and pinion system for easy tool less height changes Magnetic quick fix to bar attachment There will be more advanced options later where this mill will work in conjunction with the HEAVY first cut system
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Hi Everyone, I have a couple of large Copper Beech logs (Fagus sylvatica Purpurea) ready to be milled in Bothwell, South Lanarkshire & I was wondering of anyone was interested in the boards from them. I haven't milled them yet so you could specify sizes. The logs have been cut to 3 m in length already & the largest is about 34 " (approx 86 cm) in diameter & the smaller of the 2 is approx 24". I also have quite a few large Ash logs from the same job (there is also some large logs of other species such as Sycamore & Lime). All offers considered - we can deliver if reasonably local otherwise you can pick them up from the site. Regards, Martin Greener Glens
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I was just after an opinion on what to do with the ever growing amount of Oak and various other wood lengths we have stored in the barn. We always keep the best looking pieces of wood instead of cutting them up for firewood and would quite like to do something with them. We also have quite a large amount of Sweet Chestnut that could be milled into something more usefull than firewood. Basically our options would be to either: Buy a 660 with a 30inch alaskan as most of our wood isn't much bigger than 28" Hire someone with a mobile sawmill to come and mill them up I'm currently leaning more towards the alaskan because I could then mill wood as I find it rather than having to collect a large amount and then get it milled. Moreover I'm pretty sure milling it myself would be pretty good fun! Thanks,
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Anyone using either an Alaskan Mill or Logosol Mill? Which one is the preferred mill for occasional planking/lumber conversion? Intend to use MS 660 with it. Cheers, Jim