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My 201's the same - press the throttle hard down straight from tick over and nothing happens, it needs to be feathered into operation like a cold saw.

I've got 3 200's and the 201 is a disappointment in comparison. I'm just hoping it gets into it's stride in the future with more use, has anyone found this to be the case?

Duro (carbide tipped) chain can only be sharpened with a grinder and you'll need the correct disk for such a chain.

Duro chain is worth it for cutting timber with a lot of soil/grit on it (ie skidded lengths, stumps down to ground level) as it won't dull as easily as standard chain, but for any other application I wouldn't bother.

It used to be my Stihl 036 - light enough to use all day and got enough grunt to take on most things. but it's now the MS361, similar but oh so better.

Got this Tajfun 6.5t recently and well pleased. Radio control and hydraulic spooling off of the drum are optional. Just over 5K

I've used rapeseed oil, both branded chain oil and cooking oil, for over 15 years and have never cooked a bar tip yet nor noticed advanced chain wear. The only downside, as someone has already mentioned, is the resinous build up of oil and sawdust which occurs round the clutch drum, oil pump, chain brake etc. if this isn't cleaned regularly then it can become corrosive over time. The Stihl bio chain oil is supposed to minimize this to some extent, but I've never tried it.

It's hard to believe that folks are still using mineral chain oil considering the negative environmental impact it has being sprayed over soil, flora and water. Not to mention that as a chain saw is running a large proportion of chain oil coming off the chain is vaporized and your just breathing all that in!! + rapeseed oil is cheaper.

461 will be available with heated handles, if that helps your decision

The MS461 is in the 2013 catalogue and should be out in UK before end of March 2013, at the very latest. They are out in France already though. I'd wait and get one as they're just an updated version of the well proven 460 just with more power and lower vibe levels and they only weigh a tad more than the 441

8t for 15 or 16" bars and 7t for 18 and 20" bars, unless your mainly cutting soft wood and the you'd probably be ok with 8t / 18"

I found a pool of chain oil underneath one of my saws and on inspection found that some little feching rodent's nibbled a hole in the chain oil cap - to get access to the veg oil they seem to love!

Anyone else had this?

C stands for Catalytic convertor. Buy the saw but replace the cat with dual port 460 exhaust.

Gnarlyoak if you find that frustrating then you'll probably not like the fact that the MS150 TC-E and rear handled version have been out in Germany and most of europe for a year now!

pants i know

MS 150 TC-E - Extrem leichte 1,0kW Baumpflegesäge

I agree. It must me down to Stihl's strange UK marketing policy - the same one that meant the MS192t has never been released here!

I reckon it'll be worth waiting for though, same power to weight ratio as 460, bigger bar capacity, lower vibrations .. . ..

Hopefully this should work now.

MS 461 - Introducing the NEW STIHL MS 461 Chain Saw

The MS 461 has been out in the rest of Europe for a few months now and just out in USA & Canada - Stihl say UK release before the end of the year!

Looks like it'll run a 32" bar!

Can't wait