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Nature will find it's way...... One Volcano eruption burst millions of tons of Co2 so should we blame Volcanoes for all our trouble and ban them from erupting ?

To be fairly honest it is the global economic system that needs to be blamed for all the troubles as if timber prices would be same in every country of the world then there would be no point of importing it ( unless country cannot outsource enough of its own product which is the UK case unfortunately) You cannot blame the poor Chinese for all the trouble as probably only a few of you know that China import 80% of Birch from Russia and Baltic's for instance because it simply doesn't grow in China however they make a lot of furniture and construction materials from it. How immoral isn't it as then this furniture comes back to Baltic's and Russia. China actually outsmarted many countries by keeping costs low and encouraging businesses to move there to manufacture their goods: 1= Chinese got lots of jobs so could keep their billion population working whilst in transition from socialism to part capitalistic system 2= China now owns us as they provide all the goods for us and can easily boycott manufacturing what will cause ultra chaos in the developed world. 3= They get all the technology there and very successfully learned to copy it. Now they manage to launch their own manned spacecrafts and are planning to go to the Moon by 2020 4= They are moving away from Dollar trade now which will cause a big trouble in the next couple of years as China holds the biggest reserve after US of dollars and bonds. Coming back to the UK, costs of delivered to central UK 1m3 Kiln Dried Silver Birch which is ready to sell is around £ 78 and £74 for air dried. Considering costs which it will take to manufacture same goods here in the UK it is not much of a difference to pay for a ready to sell product. But this is not the main problem, the main problem is UK Government which decided to go Green in 6 years time by shutting down Power Plants and cutting down on Co2 by raising levy on coal. Financial Crisis isn't helping as 4 out of 10 Customer who I've served in East Anglia just had a new stove installed to help cut the bill. There are a lot of people going "green" here without realizing that local suppliers won't manage to meet with the demand. 9 out of 10 Firewood Merchant whom I've supplied in 2012/2013 ran out of their own logs by Christmas. They saved a lot for the season ( 600-1500m3) but that wasn't enough and they haven't got more space/time to make more anyway. If they would be importing the logs they would simply loose their customers as wouldn't be able to supply them with goods. UK imports nearly 60% of all the firewood that is being burned during whole season, even more wood comes here for construction simply because they can't source enough locally and they never will. According to my knowledge vikings used to bring cord from Sweden back in the 15-16th Century so importing logs isn't something that started happening recently. UK will be deforested within 10 years if they stop importing wood and only consume what they have in their own woodlands. Coming back to the economic system: It is simply unprofitable to deal with all the waste and **** in the world as well as deal with such low paid jobs as forest management in this country when people can make money otherwise. # Well Guess I found who/what to blame. I guess there will be a lot of criticism flying my way but I don't really care as everything said above is purely my opinion, but I just felt like I need to share it with you people so that some of you wake up and see what is happening here. P.S When I used to retail firewood I used to sell 1m3 of Kiln Dried Firewood for £99 delivered to local customers and that was a proper 1m3 with a 120x80x110 crate size. I didn't want to kill the competition, I wanted people to save money and be able to spend it on other things which they probably need more in difficult times. When doing wholesale I used to follow same logic of only charging what I think I've earned by doing this Job, paperwork, negotiations and handling, whilst hearing from other wholesales how easily they made £1000 profit by charging £90/m3 to desperate merchants....

Ooops, I though you were asking if retailing at £60 m/cu3 dry softwood split is ok. If its green cord, I guess £30 is the top price roadside.....

I tried to understand what exactly do you mean by getting 3 and a bit trailer loads, but just can't understand what you mean. Nowadays you won't find people supplying loose firewood by weight as dry and wet wood will weight different. Seasoned wood will weight more than kiln kiln dried, Hardwood initially weights more than softwood. So to be honest Kiln Dried to 15% Alder will be probably 2/3 of what Seasoned Ash to 25-30% will be. People advertise Tonne bags of firewood - because if you fill it up with sand it will weight around a tonne, but as mostly people just dump firewood in the bag and shake a little bit it does look like something around 1m3 but people do forget that they are also buying air in between the logs. More often people in the UK supply a mysterious "loose load" which can be anything really. They claim to fill a loose transit but you wont really know how much wood you have got delivered there until you start stacking it all up. Hope this helps, Andres

1m Tonne bag of softwood delivered for £60 is quite fair I think. Tonne bag isn't necessarily 1m3 of Logs. I would suggest it is around 0.65 m3 in Stacked volume and 0.85-1.00 m3 In Loose volume. 1m3 of stacked split dry softwood will weight around 300 kg.... When 1m3 of wet wood will be around 450 kg. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I would hardly believe there is even 4 m3...

First come first served basis, but I am always warning regular customer that I am running low on wood so that it doesn't come as a surprise...

Depending on location and wholesale amount you are talking about. If it is an arctic then depends where are you based. Generally I would say it is slightly expensive. But if you are talking about quantity like 500 nets then well may be....

Jonty obviously I'm just being cheeky. People are quite nice and friendly around here. Sorry nobody I know in your area whom I could advise.

Thats right Jonty, make arbtalk members fight each other for who does business with you

Well Nick, considering the fact that HGV's are banned from road use on Sundays all across western Europe should be a reminder that things can always be worse

Hi, we can supply RUF- Briquettes 12 per pack, 10 kg each pack. Can send a picture on email if interested. Made from mixed conifiers sawdust. Briquette dimensions: 2.5x4.5x6 cm, Moisture Content up to 12% usually 8% If interested please pm me your post code and I will get back to your with a price. FOB from Latvia is around 120 Euro/ Tonne - 100 packs

well East Anglia had quite a lot of rain in the past 2 months. Although petrol stations have roof cover, rain and wind sometimes gets on them. But still, is it possible to get the wood so wet within a short term?

Went to the petrol station yesterday with a Stanley Moisture Reader. FE wood was in nets and had 35-40% down the side.... I have a seller who stores my wood outside, last batch stayer there for more than 6 week. Was 16% is 16% I wonder if wood at 40% MC will even burn. Probably will have to have 10 bags of kindling on a side for that.....

They cost around 750 £ + they are quite heavy. Its a comfortable option, but weight and price put me off eventually from getting one of these. Would work great to get around on gravel