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Well it's like this yank, there are no steep treacherous hillsides in the UK that our med techs can't conquer lickety split, see? They wear forestry calks see, in case it ever rains, see? Yeah, yeah, just like Edward G, see. Jomoco
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How's adding pneumatic arm n leg splints, so effective as sterile pressure bandages, overkill in a treeman foreman's medkit? You guys have me truly astounded n astonished. Tell me more about your minimalist first aid insights on this biz by all means mates? Jomoco
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And though he'll soon be departed, there was still a chance, that he'd sue me.. There will be an answer, let em bleed. Jomoco
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Like these mate? Inflatable splints | Spencer. 360° Emergency Solutions Jomoco
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Let's tackle the addendums one at a time then shall we mate? Pneumatic arm n leg splints? Are they harmful in the medkits of chainsaw wielding Englishman? Jomoco
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Kinda renders the title of crew leader somewhat useless in a pinch! Jomoco
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Kinduva let em bleed till the authorities arrive philosophy, eh? When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary'll come to me, singing there will be an answer, let em bleed.... Jomoco
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How deep would a honey locust tree thorn have to penetrate a climber's chest to breech the peritoneum sac and lung Tree Quip? One, two, three inches? The gleditsia triacanthos has thorns over ten centimeters long mate! Used by natives in olden times as bloody nails. I understand you lot av a huge one lurking about in Kent? Jomoco
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So as a first aid trainer, do you agree that pneumatic splints, tourniquets, Saran Wrap and fold up stretchers are wise additions to tree industry first aid kits? Jomoco
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No. But your taking exception to non UK members, and their insights on this biz? Comes across rather pompous, some might even say snobbish? Are there unique attributes to conifer species in the UK I'm unaware of? My very first post, in the first paragraph, specifically stated there are two aspects of fitness to be perused in this thread, physical and mental. Integral to that mental aspect is preparedness to deal with medical emergencies in an effective and timely manner. Now your opinion that a standard first aid kit and a cell phone will suffice in the UK? Astounds me. Do folks bleed out slower there or somethin mate? Or is it just a case of UK'ers havin a lot more common sense and smarts than dumb uppity yanks talkin Shyte bout things ee knows nothin about? Have you yourself ever climbed trees daily as a profession, for any length of time? Jomoco
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Emergency Med training is a requisite for some ISA certs here, as well as for obtaining a State Licensed Contractor number, as I recall. Typical basic stuff, blowing into a dummy on a gurney etc. Nothing about punctured lungs though. I learned about that the hard way, and sheer good luck that my purely amateurish puncture plugging with the palm of my motocross glove, and use of foldaway reclining camping chair, in the back of a 4X4 truck saved my riding buddy's life. He basically impaled himself on a manzanita stub, on an extremely steep downhill section of our favorite motox track. Right through his chest protector, jersey, right tit n lung. We call him ole one tit now! Jomoco
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Read the UK chainsaw accident statistics I linked to mate. They clearly show that the bulk of UK injuries occur in the private self employed sector of the tree n landscape industry, not the commercial or municipal sector. To answer your stretcher question, a punctured lung victim should be kept on their side, the puncture sealed with plastic after exhaling, affected lung lowest, on a semi upright incline. Then transported ASAP. Every army med knows the routine. Why shouldn't you? It's been proven to save lives, even in the UK. Jomoco
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Yeah, fifty bucks n Saran Wrap's a bridge too for a Brit foreman, eh? This is the lounge lads, take a chill pill, pint or whatever and tell me what your true beef is with life n death emergency preparedness, in this biz, or any other hazardous profession. It takes less than five minutes to bleed out from a nicked femoral artery. Why shouldn't the foreman take charge immediately, with every tool at their disposal? Do you have a plan B when an EMT ain't around to save your hide? Jomoco
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A fifty dollar polyester folding stretcher, packaged into a one foot square two inch wide configuration that'll slide under any truck seat, in every foreman's tool truck? Mighty handy! Prolly in OZ,NZ n Canada too. Jomoco
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I've watched quite a few wannabe climbers lose it on a lateral and slap the trunk with lung puncturing force. But that don't happen in the jolly UK, right mates? Jomoco
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Stubs n jagged edges capable of puncturing a lung, in the tree biz? Not in the UK! Hah! Jomoco
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Physical and mental fitness Eggs, think about it. I've been a foreman, my whole career, I'm responsible, not the friggin EMT's. What's your beef with being prepared for life n death situations whether at work or at play mate? Jomoco
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I confess to a sense of amazement that the basic steps I've taken to be prepared for the eventualities I've faced and dealt with both in this biz and at play, strike a few of you as extreme! It's like some of you are non-believers in Murphy's law, and a standard first aid is just fine in this biz, cuz UK EMT's are so quick? I got news for you Brits under the spell of such nonsense, wake up! This is a dangerous biz cousins, and being prepared for the inevitable if you stick with it long enough to be an elder's a real good idea, mates. Jomoco
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Nice Reg! You buyin rope in 600 hundred foot spools now? Hillsides n big wood still kinda creep me out. Jomoco
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I've been exposed to enough gore in civilian life, at work and at play, to get the merest whiff of what PTSD must be like for soldiers in the thick of it. The adrenaline rush, the frenzy n confusion and anger. Each time follows the same pattern of coming down from the adrenaline high afterward, the seeking of solitude, and tears of relief, quite cathartic IME. I don't doubt a lotta guys are far more stalwart and less cry babyish about it afterward, than I am. There's a bond that developes between friends n coworkers that don't lose it when carnage rears it's ugly head, repeatedly. One of the reasons I also carry Saran Wrap clinging plastic stuff in my modified medkits, for sucking punctured lung wounds, way out in the desert, miles n miles from an ER. I also mimic the Baja 100 desert racers on murdersickles, by carrying a healthy supply of Percs! Percodan or Percocet, both work pretty well on me personally. Jomoco
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Sounds about right. He did pass out in my passenger seat enroute to the ER, let go of the tourniquet and start pumping blood again, until I shifted into second gear and used my right hand to cinch him up tight again, hold in place with one hand and steer with the other. As fate would have it that particular day n time? North Torrey Pines Road south was being re paved that day and was closed. So I straight across and directly into the parking lots of the adjoining neighbors of the ER, busted through their hedges n dividers n lawns to finally make the ER, still in second, and movin at a fair clip. I was less than two miles from the ER, at a condo, in La Jolla, luckily. Jomoco
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Shiny Bob's because he sported the Telly Savalas bald head way before others turned it into a craze. Most assuredly an intimidating lookin fellow! Jomoco
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No, but I have learned that it takes 4 healthy special ops groundies to lug around 240 lb accident victims on a stretcher! It ain't like in the movies at all I'm tellin yu! Jomoco
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Must be my magnetic southern charm that draws you helplessly back to my thread, eh mate? Jomoco
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Even a cursory googling of UK chainsaw injury statistics kinda emphasizes my point. http://www.adam-europe.eu/prj/5126/prd/14/2/UK%20chainsaw%20accident%20review.pdf It's also been my experience that the biggest burliest toughest lookin dudes? Are often the first to feint into a blubbering fetal ball when gory blood n guts are on display up close n personal. It's certainly an adrenaline rush that takes a while to come down from IME. Shiny Bob that nicked his femoral with an 044 lived to tell the tale, barely. Last I heard he was happily flippin pizzas downtown. Big boy, scary light blue, cold Malamute eyes. Jomoco
