should it stay or go

[bob]

tree has a TPO

decay is about near top of photo on right hand side

A brace has been specified above it

[combined tree services]

what are the targets bob ??? what type of bracing hes been specified ??

[tommer9]

Sorry to seem thick Bob, but I assume that you are referring to the diseased part of the tree for removal, as opposed to the whole tree? How would bracing it help?I havent braced any trees but have removed two which have been braced in the past, and one had decay which we were pretty sure had been introduced by the wound caused by the bracing. Surely it would be better to remove the decay back to healthy wood?

I suppose it would partially decided by the nature and cause of the decay, but either way is there not a risk that by leaving it the decay would spread further thus causing failure and necessitate future felling of the whole tree?

I would lean toward removal.

[bob]

  combined tree services said:

what are the targets bob ??? what type of bracing hes been specified ??

 

syc on left felled and extenion to be built between tree and just to left of where photo was taken

 

cobra sort of specified but spoke to consultant and any over 5 ton ok

prob use gefa

[Amelanchier]

As a TO I'd be asking;

 

What is the the strength loss resulting from the defect?

What is the strength of the remaining parts?

What's the minimum pruning that would mitigate the risk of failure?

What is the current amenity value of the tree?

What would the amenity value of the tree be after the necessary minimum pruning works?

What are the replacement options in this position?

 

[bob]

  tommer9 said:

Sorry to seem thick Bob, but I assume that you are referring to the diseased part of the tree for removal, as opposed to the whole tree? How would bracing it help?I havent braced any trees but have removed two which have been braced in the past, and one had decay which we were pretty sure had been introduced by the wound caused by the bracing. Surely it would be better to remove the decay back to healthy wood?

I suppose it would partially decided by the nature and cause of the decay, but either way is there not a risk that by leaving it the decay would spread further thus causing failure and necessitate future felling of the whole tree?

I would lean toward removal.

 

decay is on stem on right hand side about 1cm from top of photo so if you removed diseased part there would only be strange leaning leg that goes over house

consultant had not seen decay i dont think

brace was specified as the tree would be more open and due to proximity of house i believe

[combined tree services]

so will you be reducing the prescribed limb to be braced as well by 20-25% ?? i think i thats probablly the route i would go down but without seeing where proposed development will be i can only speculate !

 

whats the condition throughout the rest of the tree bob ??

[Amelanchier]

Sorry. Missed the bracing bit - I blame the Chateauxneuf.

[Paul Barton]

  Tony Sorensen said:

As a TO I'd be asking;

 

What is the the strength loss resulting from the defect?

What is the strength of the remaining parts?

What's the minimum pruning that would mitigate the risk of failure?

What is the current amenity value of the tree?

What would the amenity value of the tree be after the necessary minimum pruning works?

What are the replacement options in this position?

 

 

Surely you would ask the 4th question first?

 

Good questions but what sort of answers would you be expecting from questions 1 and 2? Percentages? Based on opinion?

[bob]

  Tony Sorensen said:

As a TO I'd be asking;

 

1 What is the the strength loss resulting from the defect?

2What is the strength of the remaining parts?

3What's the minimum pruning that would mitigate the risk of failure?

4What is the current amenity value of the tree?

5What would the amenity value of the tree be after the necessary minimum pruning works?

6 What are the replacement options in this position?

 

 

1 who knows

2 not sure

3 pruning would not work

4 can not be seen from road approx 10 houses can see it but its crap

5 prunning not an option imo

6 a birch was specified for the syc we felled so not a lot of room for another to develop to maturity but keeps us in work so get one planted