BS5837 and Veteran Trees

[daltontrees]

Got it! Many thanks!

 

(I see now I was still scrambling around on the 'old' website not the new one! )

 

Yeah, that'll be why the links won't work, if the old website is being scuttled.

[David Humphries]

Although the new website is up and running there's still a few holes to fill.

 

I was speaking with the ATF development officer the other day about the section on trees to visit. I get the impression that after Easter the site will be up and running where they want it to be.

 

 

 

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[Paul Barton]

So, I went on the VETree seminar a few weeks back at Calke Abbey in Derbyshire (nice place).

 

We looked at a few different trees of 'veteran' status, including this Hawthorn (possibly!?). What do you reckon? If you came across this on a development site survey would you give it the category A3?

[David Humphries]

Looks like a veteran Hawthorn to me, so would tick that category from my perspective.

 

 

 

 

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[Paul Barton]

I would expect that from you Dave ;-) I'm interested to hear if those working regularly for private sector clients would agree.

[David Humphries]

............ I'm interested to hear if those working regularly for private sector clients would agree.

 

I thought perhaps you were, I was just being a little puckish

 

 

Hope it hasn't put anyone off inputting serious discussion

 

 

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[Andy Clark]

I think a lot would depend on the context of the site. That tree in that location, yeah, probably A3. Put it in the middle of a housing estate, and i wager it would struggle to even reach a B category.

[Paul Barton]

I think a lot would depend on the context of the site. That tree in that location, yeah, probably A3. Put it in the middle of a housing estate, and i wager it would struggle to even reach a B category.

 

That's exactly what I thought! It made me wonder if I'd overlooked some potential veterans on large-scale housing surveys!

 

However, at the seminar there was little discussion of the site and local environment as being a factor in determining whether something qualifies as veteran. It seems to be all about the tree and its characteristics....

[Andy Clark]

Trouble with tree like that on housing estates, or in any other generally populated area come to that, is that they are often never let to get that "bad/good" in the first place.

 

Dacay + people = bad. Decay + no people = good. With the variable in the equation being the degree of decay vs volume of people (level of liability exposure) and ultimately often being the governor of the degree of "bad-ness/good-ness" that determines when to retain and when to fell.

[daltontrees]

So, I went on the VETree seminar a few weeks back at Calke Abbey in Derbyshire (nice place).

 

We looked at a few different trees of 'veteran' status, including this Hawthorn (possibly!?). What do you reckon? If you came across this on a development site survey would you give it the category A3?

 

Looks 3 to me. A or B depending on ERC. I don't see how the situation should affect that. It's not like a Hawthorn is going to fall over and crush someone. On what basis would it be downgraded because of proximity to populations or existing development?