Srt Rescues

[colemanjessenz]

I think that recusing someone if they are using some sort of srwp system is a lot easier then say if it was rescuing someone on just ascenders , this takes a bit of practice to do smoothly and efficently and involves unclipping and counter balancing .

Funnily enough Ben and i were having a yarn about this the other weekend.

if its a rescue on an access line then check the anchor and the rope and all the other stuff that is important before you enter the tree. ascend upto the casualty then safely move your ascenders above their system if necessary.... then install a prussic above with a pulley or carabiner and run a climbing line through this making sure that there is friction device e.g. rope wrench or 8 as you will be loading the knot with two people and the last thing you need is a knot binding up.

connect the end of the system to the casualty and the climbing knot to you, then, connect the casualty directly to you via a lanyard or strop and disconnect your ascenders.

you can now lift the casualty by putting your knees underneath them and leaning back, creating enough slack to undo their ascenders and be able to rappel down to the ground ...... hopefully i haven't missed anything .

[BenR]

I think that recusing someone if they are using some sort of srwp system is a lot easier then say if it was rescuing someone on just ascenders , this takes a bit of practice to do smoothly and efficently and involves unclipping and counter balancing .

Funnily enough Ben and i were having a yarn about this the other weekend.

if its a rescue on an access line then check the anchor and the rope and all the other stuff that is important before you enter the tree. ascend upto the casualty then safely move your ascenders above their system if necessary.... then install a prussic above with a pulley or carabiner and run a climbing line through this making sure that there is friction device e.g. rope wrench or 8 as you will be loading the knot with two people and the last thing you need is a knot binding up.

connect the end of the system to the casualty and the climbing knot to you, then, connect the casualty directly to you via a lanyard or strop and disconnect your ascenders.

you can now lift the casualty by putting your knees underneath them and leaning back, creating enough slack to undo their ascenders and be able to rappel down to the ground ...... hopefully i haven't missed anything .

 

Spot on that man! If only the climber had the smarts to install a ground based rescue system before going up on his ascenders you wouldn't have to bother!! At the very least an alpine butterfly above your fixed base anchor!! Takes an extra 30 seconds!! Agreed that rescue from ascenders is much trickier than with a wrench/HH/uni/bone/whatever. With the advances in climbing I personally cant see the need for ascenders as a main point of attachment to the rope even for access. Fair enough in rope access work where transfers between ropes are common. But to access a tree where we will not be constantly changing ropes, a wrench is much safer, even if you then change onto a doubled rope system at the top.

[Loler UK]

Practice in indeed important, but experimanting with new/ inventing and modifying techniques can prove tricky or at worse dangerous not to mention leaving you liable if something did go wrong

 

ascending tails is an interesting one but when trained in industrial srt rescue you ascent their backp line and backup onto their climbing line, also the need to ad friction is a megggga consideration, MLTE train to attach both casualty and rescuer to the frictonm hardweare to stop the knot from binding up which works great but requires unweighted line, position of the casualty si limited compared to ddrt and to ad an extra karabiner chain style to allow the rescuer to easily leave the casualty or not? when passing the a csualty how do you attach above & below and how many times? ascending on a separate system is safer in many respects (and unless trained to ascend a tail then legally the best route IMO) but ascending a tail may prove a lot quicker depending on where the rescue line has been routed.

 

exciting potabilities but when the adrenalin is pumping & someone is bleeding sticking to what you were trained to do and know best is likely the preferable option, rescuing someone is not the time to get in a muddle or make mistakes, who will rescue the rescuer?

[colemanjessenz]

Practice in indeed important, but experimanting with new/ inventing and modifying techniques can prove tricky or at worse dangerous not to mention leaving you liable if something did go wrong

 

ascending tails is an interesting one but when trained in industrial srt rescue you ascent their backp line and backup onto their climbing line, also the need to ad friction is a megggga consideration, MLTE train to attach both casualty and rescuer to the frictonm hardweare to stop the knot from binding up which works great but requires unweighted line, position of the casualty si limited compared to ddrt and to ad an extra karabiner chain style to allow the rescuer to easily leave the casualty or not? when passing the a csualty how do you attach above & below and how many times? ascending on a separate system is safer in many respects (and unless trained to ascend a tail then legally the best route IMO) but ascending a tail may prove a lot quicker depending on where the rescue line has been routed.

 

exciting potabilities but when the adrenalin is pumping & someone is bleeding sticking to what you were trained to do and know best is likely the preferable option, rescuing someone is not the time to get in a muddle or make mistakes, who will rescue the rescuer?

 

practise, practise, practise all of your pre entry checks should be really emphasised on this thread also . getting an ambulance called , location and situation of casualty. pre climb inspection is important e.g. powerlines, hangers etc but If the climbers bleeding out , don't go checking for fungi if you get what i mean. all gear is inspected and fit for ascent , check the ambulance is coming and all the time be talking to the casualty even if they are unconscious , it can really help. . ascend up and bring them down and give appropriate care , if the casualty is bleeding , make sure you take up something to stop the blood flow.