forestry commision

[woodworm]

Where does it say you need to know how to fell a tree to manage forests. I agree with you, the public sector is littered with people who do lots of paper work but with no hands on skills. As a manager you have experience of forest and hr management and communicate that well enough it's all you need. You

Have craftsmen for actually using the tools. Though their ability or enthusiasm to use it can also at times lack. But this is not about what existed in the past. Once you're in, it's virtually impossible to be removed. With all large employers your ability to get the job relies not only on your merits but your ability to put them across to an interview panel.

 

You dont have to be able to fell a tree to manage a forest.

I think you have just confirmed my point. As a manager you need to be able and competent to undertake the job you have been given, and without any hands on experience you are unable to do that just from a college course. Maybe anyone wanting to get into management should be an assistant manager for at least 5 years so that they can take a secondary role to the manager until they have learnt more about managing on a full time basis. If you have never had any experience of even minor management of a forest, you cant come out of college and go straight into it and telling experienced forestry operatives the best way to go about forestry practices.

[gnfencer]

I worked for the commission for 6 years, it just encouraged me to be lazy, I never thought I would get sick of hiding in a wood sleeping in a van all day but I did.

Forestry commission

 

FoR ResT Try Commission.

[Jon3012]

My best mate is a commission ranger he works the hardest longest hours of anyone I know. You get whatever you put in in your job.

[Chris Sheppard]

I applied for a job which I was more than qualified for and so did a few other mates of mine and we didn't even get a interview for the position,

 

I found the opposite. Several years ago I applied for a management position I knew little about, without any management experience and didn't expect to hear anything, yet got invited for an interview. Didn't get it though, don't think I'd have fitted in right well though anyway

[hawthornheavyhorses]

I was offered a Beat Managers position a few years ago. I was working Part Time as a manager in a conservation charity whilst working as a horse logger part-time, and thought that working for the FC for a few years might be good experience.

 

I turned the job down once the contract arrived as I was unhappy with a number of the clauses, especially the one that meant that they could move me internally within the FC to anywhere in the country. I have kids at school and horses to look after and the last thing I would need would be to get moved away if they decided they needed me elsewhere. This is standard for staff over a certain grade, doesn't apply to rangers, craftsmen etc I think. Also there was very little hands-on work, it was all managing contractors and staff.

 

As it happens it was the best decision as we suddenly got lots of work with the horses and went full-time with them and I haven't looked back!

[gnfencer]

My best mate is a commission ranger he works the hardest longest hours of anyone I know. You get whatever you put in in your job.

 

So is my best mate also sells firewood,and has another job I've known rangers to go on holiday, for a couple of weeks totally unbeknown to their head rangers