Fruit Trees

[codlasher]

Well I'm blowed! such a lot of good information to take in and in my case this will take a bit of time:001_tongue:!!!

 

Our orchard is about 1/4 of an acre plus our veg garden at 1/4 too. We raise Muscovy ducks & chooks in their confines with the poop being the rocket fuel for the trees!

 

Some of our root stock is on M27 and the young stock came from Victoriana nursery gardens. The remainder is MM106 root stock as recommended by the East of England apples & orchards project That was an interesting journey, collecting:001_smile: Home

 

The trees seem to be doing well and have produced fruit for two years now.

Our orchard is a youngster as we started with a blank canvas on a derelict property. We were eating apples in December that we had stored the previous summer. There's Discovery, a St Edmunds russet (From Bury St Edmunds, a Bramley cooker, a Suffolk pink, Cox's in there & I think it's an orange pippin & a Norfolk glory.

A Holstead black mazzard cherry, I love the name! A Suffolk Thorn pear & a Conference. Plus nut bushes and a Black mulberry which has done really well.

codlasher

Edited July 6, 2013 by codlasher
Spelling!

[felixthelogchopper]

Yes, photos and spacing would be good. I'd guess Gollum and Peasgood will be along at some point too. Btw, I meant 1857 for Annie Elizabeth, not 1957!

 

Alec

 

I guessed it was a typo . I'm hoping to pick Mark's (Gollum's) brain if he is at Jonesie's this month. Are you going?

[agg221]

Well I'm blowed! such a lot of good information to take in and in my case this will take a bit of time:001_tongue:!!!

 

Our orchard is about 1/4 of an acre plus our veg garden at 1/4 too. We raise Muscovy ducks & chooks in their confines with the poop being the rocket fuel for the trees!

 

Some of our root stock is on M27 and the young stock came from Victoriana nursery gardens. The remainder is MM106 root stock as recommended by the East of England apples & orchards project That was an interesting journey, collecting:001_smile: Home

 

The trees seem to be doing well and have produced fruit for two years now.

Our orchard is a youngster as we started with a blank canvas on a derelict property. We were eating apples in December that we had stored the previous summer. There's Discovery, a St Edmunds russet (From Bury St Edmunds, a Bramley cooker, a Suffolk pink, Cox's in there & I think it's an orange pippin & a Norfolk glory.

A Holstead black mazzard cherry, I love the name! A Suffolk Thorn pear & a Conference. Plus nut bushes and a Black mulberry which has done really well.

codlasher

 

That's a decent selection - I presume you're in Suffolk then (I'm right on the border, Suffolk being the other side of the river at the bottom of the garden). I presume you mean Polstead Black Mazzard - the village of Polstead is about 20mins from me. Mazzard is an old name for the wild cherry stock that was used for propagation before the development of Colt. F12/1 is a mazzard selection. There are some other brilliantly named cherry varieties, listed in the only english book on the subject, written in the 1940s by the equally excellently named Norman H. Grubb. I particularly like Bolium, Bullock's Heart (although it's a horrible cherry!), Caroon and Black Tartarian!

 

The two small orchards I'm currently looking after are at very different stages - the first was planted 1919 so there has been a lot of filling the gaps (still more to go), whereas our one here was a blank canvas (about 1/3acre so far). The 1919 orchard includes Bramley and St. Edmund's Russett (aka St Edmund's Pippin) which were commercial then, and both just about still are - I saw St Edmunds Pippins in Sainsbury's about 10yrs ago. I've bought trees from the East of England project, but not Victoriana, although they have an interesting selection and I believe propagate their own rather than buying in.

 

Felix - not sure if I'm going to Jonesie's show yet, it's quite near where Mum lives so we may go down for the day.

 

Alec

Edited July 7, 2013 by agg221

[codlasher]

agg221, Alec, you are correct on my location and it I will amend the H for a P on the mazzard. My mistake!

There is a fellow we get talking to who is an apple enthusiast, he's called Jan Neutebaumer (spelling) you may know him.

 

There's also a village near to us that has an orchard with the biggest selection of fruit trees that I have ever seen, collected from all over including Europe. Some of the trees still had their passport labels attached when I visited last. They have a little celebration each year with 'afternoon tea' and music which is fun. Their selection is young like ours but the range of varieties are staggering.

Thank you for your information:biggrin:

codlasher

[codlasher]

The spelling for DAN Neuteboom was so awful!

Website; http://www.realenglishfruit.co.uk

codlasher

Edited July 7, 2013 by codlasher
liven up web page with a www.!

[Peasgood]

Dan Neuteboom is a legend!

If you are privvy to chats with him you are wasting your time asking us.

 

Ask him about his appearance on that game show. (You Bet I think it was called)

[codlasher]

Dan Neuteboom is a legend!

If you are privvy to chats with him you are wasting your time asking us.

 

Ask him about his appearance on that game show. (You Bet I think it was called)

 

I will ask! He's been a great help to us. So have other folk as well.

No I'm not wasting time:001_tongue:, I've leaned some good things from here too and love the enthusiasm that people have.

That's one of the things about this forum though, the movement and the exchange of information:biggrin:

codlasher

[SteveA]

We've been looking into planting a new orchard and will definitely be including some old variteties, especially ones without any need to spray. Not used them (yet) but Ian Sturrock & Sons based in North Wales looks like one to bookmark:

 

"We have been succesfully growing rare organic Welsh fruit trees in North Wales for the last 30 years.

 

After many years of searching, researching and trials, we have developed a collection of fruit trees that will succeed in our unique location. We have varieties of Apple, Pear, Plum and Damson fruit trees from all over Wales, all of which are unique and very rare.

Apple Tree, Pear Tree, Plum Tree, Damson Tree.

 

Our organic fruit trees are disease resistant (no need to spray), ripen well despite our cool and cloudy summers and bear fruit that doesn't blow off the trees during autumn gales."

Edited July 9, 2013 by SteveA
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[Big J]

Hi Danny,

 

The place to go locally is Binnie Plants on Ecclesmachan Road. They aren't expensive compared to garden centres (on account of them being a nursery) and they really know their stuff.

[dansound]

Thanks for all the information, has been very useful.

 

I want to plant along the back end of the garden, that is 20m wide - just one single row.

want the trees to give some privacy along the back of the garden and some fruit would be really nice.

Had a cherry tree in the garden as a kid, did like that.

As for eating apple, I like Granny Smith & Pink lady – anything close to those two that will do well in a Scottish garden?

 

Soil type I would say is a mixture. Predominantly clay / sand. But, it has had Scots Pine growing on it for the last 50 years, so the soil is pretty rich and the top 4 inches is like compost, of pine needles, mulched bark etc.

Height wise - MM106 looks about right

 

For that size of area, 3 apple trees and a cherry tree seem right for a 20 meter line?