NPTC CS Unit Consultation Proposals

[Amelanchier]

Proposed changes to the CS system...

 

http://www.nptc.org.uk/latest-news/detail.asp?dsid=347

 

Thoughts?

[TREELINE]

Proposed changes to the CS system...

 

http://www.nptc.org.uk/latest-news/detail.asp?dsid=347

 

Thoughts?

 

"Chainsaw units previously achieved will continue to be valid after the revised Chainsaw Certificate of Competence units are released, provided regular refresher training has been undertaken."

 

 

More training anyone???

[TREELINE]

"Chainsaw units previously achieved will continue to be valid after the revised Chainsaw Certificate of Competence units are released, provided regular refresher training has been undertaken."

 

If you aint refreshed you aint legal?

[RRD]

While not trying to sound out of touch who is N.O.S ,why were they not involved before / why are they involved now?

[Amelanchier]

"Chainsaw units previously achieved will continue to be valid after the revised Chainsaw Certificate of Competence units are released, provided regular refresher training has been undertaken."

 

 

More training anyone???

 

If you aint refreshed you aint legal?

 

Hmmm what's regular?

 

If you ony read one bit - read this bit (the summary!)

I've only given it a quick scan; the ID test for CS38 caught my eye!!! ha ha

chainsaw_consultation_summary_feb09[1].pdf

[Bundle 2]

" If you aint refreshed you aint legal? "

 

Mmmm...does that go for the pre 1997 (?)units also...?

 

Some worthwhile changes made imo....especially cs 38/39 whu... lends it considerably more credence....in particular RA (5 steps ) tpo offence etc....Why did they remove advantages of workshop maintenence from 30?....should prob read in detail...!

[Yorkshireman]

Chainsaw units previously achieved will continue to be valid

after the revised Chainsaw Certificate of Competence units are released, provided regular refresher training has been undertaken

 

 

the key word is Has past tense

 

To what criteria How can this trainaing have been implemented if the criteria had not been given

 

Do they mean

continual use, industry practice or do they mean training

 

if training By whom

 

what are the implications for employers liability

 

If an accident occurs & a court hearing is held. the judge would take note of the AFAg guidance this indicates that nptc units are a recognised standard

if however those units are severed without a transition period

where are employers & employees left ?

Edited February 24, 2009 by Yorkshireman

[cerneARB]

I noticed from reading cs38 ,rescue, that the list of brittle/ hazardous species is mentioned they dont mention fraxinus exclsior (ash). i thought that was a bugger to climb because of its included branches.

 

thanks for putting this up Tony.

[Arbocop]

funny thing is it not questions about tpos etc and tree species exist already, and you shouls have been questioned on them in tests already, i know cern was, how are you cern cool i hope

[Arbocop]

with regard to who the NOS are. it is the National Ocupational Standard, administered by Lantra sector skills council, NOT Lantra-Awards two seperate bodies

 

befor them over 10 years ago SSC were called NTO national training organisations, Fastco represented forestry and arb, largly but not fully when the NTO became SSC they lost nearly 2/3 of the nto and grouped them together.

 

the nos is if you like a set of job descriptions, and performance criteriia that those job descriptions should be able to do, its a lot moor wordy than that, is a requirment of government, and any qualification that whants to be acredited must be based on the NOS

 

does that help??

 

kev