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You stated "vegetable oil is rapeseed/canola". I accept "vegetable oil" is an inaccurate umbrella term, but there are various oils which are referred to using this term, and they have various characteristics, and only one will be the best lubricant. So sunflower, soya, olive, peanut, are all contenders, but the rapeseed generally is a higher price than others, unless I have missed something. For chains and bars I need effective lubrication.

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You stated "vegetable oil is rapeseed/canola". I accept "vegetable oil" is an inaccurate umbrella term, but there are various oils which are referred to using this term, and they have various characteristics, and only one will be the best lubricant. So sunflower, soya, olive, peanut, are all contenders, but the rapeseed generally is a higher price than others, unless I have missed something. For chains and bars I need effective lubrication.

 

Read the small print on the back.... usually tells you.

 

 

I did use Tesco cooking oil for bar lube for about 18 months, it was good cost-wise but gummed stuff up a bit, and a saw would get sticky and a bit mouldy if left for a couple of months. The wear on bars and chains was higher but the cost so much lower than Stihl BioPlus it was cheaper I'm sure. It was still inconvenient when the nosewheel of a saw blows up unexpectedly.....

Then I bought another supermarket's oil of a supposedly identical type, and in the first tank full the chain needed re-tensioning 4 times and everything overheated.....

I suppose what I've got to say is that you're buying a cooking oil, which is made for cooking food. Strangely it doesn't conform to any mechanical engineering standards so it may bite you on the bum one day....

I now use Oregon bio chain oil, which in larger drums is as cheap to buy per litre as mineral chain oils in smaller quantities, that's my twisted logic on the subject :)

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Dont be so bloody cheap and by the right gear stihl did not spend untold amounts developing the stuff if its crap they charge that price for a reason cos its good but i get another chainsaw brand.

 

Point is i do work for a firm who do this cheap oil and they go through alot of bars and chains the little pump in the chainsaw is designed to pump a certain viscosity.

 

But each to there own

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veg oil hasnt got the tackyness to stick to the bar ,also from experience it f***s up oil pumps and bars quick esp when left for a month or so........i know people who swear by it but at the end of the day id rather buy bio plus atleast its tax deductable and theres nothing more frustrating than an oiler not working or bar sprocket disintergrating when you need to get the job done! plus you get to go home smelling like a chip pan....

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Veg oil does seem to gunge things up a bit. But hey its got to be better for you than mineral oil when its being sprayed all over you and your inhaling the mist.

 

As to wether bars and chains wear out more, well I use more chain in arb work that I did in the woods, mainly due to concrete, nails, metal brackets, wire etc.. and I use fewer bars, as the nose rarely explodes due to snedding.

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I don't think the coop is a likely place, as all I see in supermarkets in the way of rapeseed oil is around £3 a litre for noggins who think it is full of omega-3 fatty acid, and then they use it for frying, which wrecks the molecules.

 

I have a friend who does a lot of chainsaw carving and uses cheapest motor oil at £5.99 for 5 litres, so 70p a litre is still worth getting (if it exists).

 

Just as an aside (read: hijack) anyone who thinks of using rapeseed oil in biofuels to "save the planet" had better think again, it might be veggie, but it produces more nitrogen oxides than mineral oil fuels, and NOs are 296 times worse than CO2 in their effect on the atmosphere, now, must back to my log burner.

 

 

people are thinking about using veg oil as fuel cuz of diesel prices not to save the planet. but thats a very interesting fact. ive always believed that a water powered engine would arrive, but then ive believed alot of crap in my time.

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