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There are plenty of unskilled jobs about, maybe not in your own town/city. go out, even move to get that job, then when the machine on the factory breaks down watch/ask the fitter how he repairs it/re-sets it, then do the breakdown your self next time, the boss will soon notice you are more than an operator and with a bit of luck you move up the ladder.

 

When i came back from Spain i took a job in traffic management, throwing cones, putting up signs on big motorway jobs (permanent nights) 7 nights a week.I lived in a caravan following the work from north to south. After 3 years i was a foreman running the night shift.

 

Some people just don't want to work. And there excuse is it's all these bloody foreigners !

 

It doesn't take silky fox skills to get work! it takes hard graft and determination.[/ when did you come back from Spain recently??? iv also worked on motorway jobs, contraflow setups reg nights 7 days a week 12/14 hour shifts but i dont think that gives me the right to condemn people who genuinely seek employment and cant find it because of to many foreigners, sorry the Hero big motorway jobs dont cut it with me between me and my dad we did 55yrs for Alfred Mcalpines:001_tt2:

 

No i came back from Spain When the last recession had just finished, all the major industry had finished in Stoke-on-Trent. All the pottery factories had closed down the coal mines were shut and the steel works were gone. The point i was trying to make was some times you have to get on ya bike and find work. A famous tory saying (and i'm definitely not one of them). Not a big hero by any stretch! I finished my time on the roads working for Mcalpines. So i know how easy you boys had it....You ought to have tried working for the TM companys that subbed into them that did the real graft that their empolyees couldn't or didn't want to do :001_tt2:

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I believe my eyes, not the media (FTR I do not read newspaper, and watch little tv) . Crying about the hardship does not wash with me, I've done my share of crap jobs to keep myself working, not snivelled about how poor society treats me.

I would love to be wrong about what I have seen, but sadly I know differently. Like it or not, that's life.

Thing is Andy i know that there are those that don't want work watching TV all day ect and nobody would condemn them more than me ie stop all there benefits, in my neck of the wood your stated (I've done my share of crap jobs)

i can guarantee you would have prob 50 applicants for each crap job, sad but true, dont tar all with the same brush.

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Sean, I left school in 80, unemployment figures were around 3million, 1 in 10 were unemployed, the only way to get work was to take on part time jobs, I did 3 a day, while my "mates" did naff all except turn up at the Benefits office for their giros. No, there wasn't a full time job then that I could get, I left school at 16 and thought it'd be easy... It wasn't. So I think I can be qualified in my assessment of the lazy good for nothing's that have peed their Giros up the wall for the last 30 years. But we all have an opinion, we all see a different side from a different angle, and perhaps your area is worse than my area for this, that I don't know. I do know of one company that has moved from a poor area, lock stock and barrel, including his staff, to this area, in order to keep going. So I accept its not necessarily easy in other parts of the country.

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No i came back from Spain When the last recession had just finished, all the major industry had finished in Stoke-on-Trent. All the pottery factories had closed down the coal mines were shut and the steel works were gone. The point i was trying to make was some times you have to get on ya bike and find work. A famous tory saying (and i'm definitely not one of them). Not a big hero by any stretch! I finished my time on the roads working for Mcalpines. So i know how easy you boys had it....You ought to have tried working for the TM companys that subbed into them that did the real graft that their empolyees couldn't or didn't want to do :001_tt2:

lets be honest all TM work was a doddle,+ loads of overtime:thumbup:

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I also came back from Spain into the end of the boom (about 2006) and then back from NZ into the recession. I lasted four years in Spain after flying to Madrid on Easyjet again with 50 quid in my pocket. Thirty years had passed since I first did that and I'd done it again a few times in between. I'm a glutton for punishment.

 

I taught English, I worked for my keep, worked on building sites living out of the car, did odd jobs including treework.

 

There are probably people typing their opinions in this thread who have yet to leave their home town. They are the ones with the anti foreigner views. To my mind there is no such thing as a foreigner....only workers and shirkers.

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Sean, I left school in 80, unemployment figures were around 3million, 1 in 10 were unemployed, the only way to get work was to take on part time jobs, I did 3 a day, while my "mates" did naff all except turn up at the Benefits office for their giros. No, there wasn't a full time job then that I could get, I left school at 16 and thought it'd be easy... It wasn't. So I think I can be qualified in my assessment of the lazy good for nothing's that have peed their Giros up the wall for the last 30 years. But we all have an opinion, we all see a different side from a different angle, and perhaps your area is worse than my area for this, that I don't know. I do know of one company that has moved from a poor area, lock stock and barrel, including his staff, to this area, in order to keep going. So I accept its not necessarily easy in other parts of the country.
Andy,thanks for your understanding i am in no way trying to defend dole dossers i have no time for them myself at all period, but the fact of the matter is that a lot of the unemployed in my area are genuinely desperate for work and cannot get any because of the competition from foreigners which may sound racist, speaking for myself i became unemployed 10yrs ago due to being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes plus other serious health conditions after 25years as a machine driver i lost all my licences 11 categories plus my car driving licence, despite this we helped my eldest son through uni and he attaned 1st class HONS Degree and as a result got his first job after graduation @ 30k pa my youngest son was not academic and works for a well known auto fast fit company, my problem is that people driven by what they read/hear in the media get a distorted veiw of the true reality of the situation
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I also came back from Spain into the end of the boom (about 2006) and then back from NZ into the recession. I lasted four years in Spain after flying to Madrid on Easyjet again with 50 quid in my pocket. Thirty years had passed since I first did that and I'd done it again a few times in between. I'm a glutton for punishment.

 

I taught English, I worked for my keep, worked on building sites living out of the car, did odd jobs including treework.

 

There are probably people typing their opinions in this thread who have yet to leave their home town. They are the ones with the anti foreigner views. To my mind there is no such thing as a foreigner....only workers and shirkers.

 

i left school in 1979 at 16, and i have been in employment since, but i have never left my home town, and i dont think its fair to say that we are the ones with anti foreigner views,personally i am not anti foreigner its just that the sheer number of them that came to our area there was not enough work for all of them and a lot of them turned to crime, and remember a lot of people just cant up sticks and move town for employment, i dont know if you were single when you done your travelling but a lot of people have commitments, family, kids etc.

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