mog and trailer

[gemtrees]

hi all,

can you help me? im not sure which ticket(s) i need for using my timber trailer behind my unimog, most times i'm on building sites?? not been asked yet but only a matter of time. any info would be cool!!

[garth mc garth]

Cpcs tractor ticket would probably cover you for most stuff either trailed or mounted behind it.

[gemtrees]

thats what i thought but dont i need ticket for a loader??

[Brushcutter]

NPTC FMO 1.3 and 3.5 for forest tractor and timber trailer.

 

I'm don't know much about using them on building sites but i'd think CPCS tractor would cover lot of it. Maybe HIAB as well?

[gemtrees]

Seems like I might need more than 1 ticket to cover same thing for different sites ie building or woodland!!! Seems like a way of getting even more money out of you!! :-(

[LGP Eddie]

You don't actually need any tickets to operate machinery on site, regardless of all this 'got to have a CPCS' that is banded about?

 

The basic fact is you will need to be able to prove competence should any incident occur, and a very simple way of doing this is producing your CPCS card to show evidence of training/competence.

 

However you can have evidence of training provided by any suitable organisation, as it will be them called to provide their credentials again should the worst happen.

So a 'Mickey Mouse Training Ticket' would be perfectly adequate provided the said 'Mickey Mouse' is a genuine training provider who can prove their own competence to train.

Many construction/plant hire companies go this cheaper route, using 'In House' training provided by a suitable training provider (most are usually CPCS trainers anyway) without all the hoops required for a full CPCS.

 

However here's the big catch, many big companies pay levy to the CSCS scheme and insist on any operatives on their sites having the cards, as this is the scheme they recognise and no others.

This can be given extra weight by their own Insurance companies insisting plant operators must carry a CPCS card before operating any plant on site.

Hence it almost becoming the 'Law'?

 

My advice would be to gain a basic CSCS card to prove evidence of basic safety training and keep well away from the CPCS scheme.

Gain yourself the FMOC units and any site agent worthy of the name will see you have more than enough evidence to prove your competence should the need arise in a much better way than CPCS Tractor and Lorry Loader Crane units lumped together.

 

CPCS scheme is a straightforward rip off scheme that moves the goalposts every couple of years to send everyone back around the system while they collect the money and keep themselves in jobs.

 

Until someone comes up with a card that proves experience or actual ability, you never know if the plant operator you just hired is top of his game or just passed a couple of months ago after digging a few holes in a training ground.

 

Eddie.