19m Portland Braid

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Evening Guys .

 

Early last week i took delivery of some heavyer riging gear for a specific job that has come up , i was looking at the Double Esterlon but could not resist the deal that F.R Jones Did me on 60 meters of 19 mm Portland braid allong with 3 Dead Eye slings and some other kit to go with the rope . so now im looking for your thoughts on 19MM Portland braid . all advice and oppinions are greatly appreciated

 

Cheers

Dave

[Peter]

Why are you looking for advice after you bought it?

 

Bit late to tell you it's overpriced rubbish and not to touch it with a bargepole. (if that were the case)

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Why are you looking for advice after you bought it?

 

Bit late to tell you it's overpriced rubbish and not to touch it with a bargepole. (if that were the case)

 

Mor a case of peoples opinion , F.R Jones seem to think that they sell way more portland braid than any other lowering rope so i thought i would give it a go and along the way see whay experiences you guys have of it .

[ArbjobsNick]

Mor a case of peoples opinion , F.R Jones seem to think that they sell way more portland braid than any other lowering rope so i thought i would give it a go and along the way see whay experiences you guys have of it .

 

Bit of a stupid quote Peter.

 

Portland Braid is pretty much the same as the old and well trusted Yale Cordage Double Estleron. Portland braid hasn't got the same Maxi Jacket coating that helps reduce wear and abraision so Portland isn't rated quite as high on strength 7384KG Tensile Strength against Double Estleron 19mm at 8492KG T/S but it is also a lot less money

 

if your loading your ropes to the 10 % rate in line with good practice it should last you just fine.

 

Hope this is a bit more informative and less opinionated Dave.

[Jonesie]

Now Now guys, let's not derail this thread.

 

We sell a lot of it with no complaints.

[nod]

Bit of a stupid quote Peter.

 

Portland Braid is pretty much the same as the old and well trusted Yale Cordage Double Estleron. Portland braid hasn't got the same Maxi Jacket coating that helps reduce wear and abraision so Portland isn't rated quite as high on strength 7384KG Tensile Strength against Double Estleron 19mm at 8492KG T/S but it is also a lot less money

 

if your loading your ropes to the 10 % rate in line with good practice it should last you just fine.

 

Hope this is a bit more informative and less opinionated Dave.

 

 

Hello Nick

Thanks for your informative response, it's normally better than shooting from the hip!

 

Is it the case that it's the Maxi Jacket on the Double Esterlon that gives it the initial strength of 10-15% above Portland Braid? It would seem odd that the intrinsic quality of material & construction could be altered so much with a water based urethane post construction bath!

 

Also, do you have any points of reference for your comment"loading your ropes to the 10 % rate in line with good practice", as I've been discussing this alot in recent times?

 

Cheers

Nod

[Peter]

Bit of a stupid quote Peter.

 

I think you misunderstood my point.

[ArbjobsNick]

I think you misunderstood my point.

 

Sorry if I have misunderstood your point Peter I didn't think it sounded a Peter style comment that I would expect from you.

 

I based my comment on what I understood Don Blair recommended for rigging rope based on his research and book. I must admit not having read the book myself so may be quoting incorrectly but loading a rope to 10% of its breaking strain has got to be better for the safety of all involved and longevity of the rope, hasn't it? I know Dons book may be slighty aged now but I was under the impression it was still in line with currect UK safety guidance.

 

What do you work your rigging on Nod ? Maybe I am out of touch, would be interested to hear what you would recommend.

Edited September 26, 2011 by ArbjobsNick

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cheers for the advice guys , we put the new rigging rope to good use today and so far we are really happy with it , some great informative posts and an interesting read . And a Big thanks to F.R Jones for all their help and the speedy delivery of all the lowering gear .

[ArbjobsNick]

cheers for the advice guys , we put the new rigging rope to good use today and so far we are really happy with it , some great informative posts and an interesting read . And a Big thanks to F.R Jones for all their help and the speedy delivery of all the lowering gear .

 

Hi Dave, Glad the info helped if you need any more technical information at any time regarding Yale ropes climbing or rigging there is a link to Jamie Goddards email on the Yale website he is their international representative and knows shed loads about their products. Happy rigging.

 

Nick