What qualifies as a veteran tree.

[RobArb]

Theres an old saying about oaks, it goes something like, they spend 300 years growing, 300 maturing and 300 years senescing, our something to that affect

 

Gives you an idea of a veteran age though:thumbup:

 

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[Gollum]

yes, an oak of 100 years has barely reached puberty!

 

Totally agree.

 

but an oak of the same age with every dysfunction and infection going

under guide lines would,

So to what degree of degradation would qualify.

percentage of larger dead wood for example.

or any visible degree of fungal infection.

[RobArb]

Totally agree.

 

but an oak of the same age with every dysfunction and infection going

under guide lines would,

So to what degree of degradation would qualify.

percentage of larger dead wood for example.

or any visible degree of fungal infection.

 

would that just be a poorly sick tree then rather than a veteran?

 

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[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

would that just be a poorly sick tree then rather than a veteran?

 

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thats a porr term for a tree that has some deadwood and bracket fungi! are they pathogens/saprobes/ or mycos? is the dead wood just a redundant shaded limb or progressive die back as the result of a pathogen?

 

A 50 year old oak struck by lightning is a veteran.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

what most people struggle with is that most think veterans are old, ancients and vetrans are not the same, but have many similar features.

[RobArb]

Yup was confusing vets and ancients:blush:

 

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[Gollum]

would that just be a poorly sick tree then rather than a veteran?

 

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Yes and No.

 

cut and pasted from an earlier attachment.

 

In the UK the term ‘veteran’ is used to describe both the age and condition of a tree. A ‘veteran tree’

has the anthropomorphic, cultural connotations of a battle-scarred survivor: a valued, old comrade that

has been through the tribulations of life. ‘Veteran’ has come to describe the quality of dead wood

habitat in trees.

 

it has been mentioned that if a tree is severely infected and near the end of its life and not the expected lifespan for the species it is classed as a veteran.

This is were I am interested in peoples opinions

[Luke Quenby]

what most people struggle with is that most think veterans are old, ancients and vetrans are not the same, but have many similar features.

 

Well put Hama! It is easy to confuse the 2, but I reckon that's about as plain a piece of explanation as you'll find

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Yes and No.

 

cut and pasted from an earlier attachment.

 

In the UK the term ‘veteran’ is used to describe both the age and condition of a tree. A ‘veteran tree’

has the anthropomorphic, cultural connotations of a battle-scarred survivor: a valued, old comrade that

has been through the tribulations of life. ‘Veteran’ has come to describe the quality of dead wood

habitat in trees.

 

it has been mentioned that if a tree is severely infected and near the end of its life and not the expected lifespan for the species it is classed as a veteran.

This is were I am interested in peoples opinions

 

I can now kinda see where your going with this, when does managing a sick tree become managing veteran trees!

 

and that is how i percieve my work, i treat all of the older trees i work as future veterans or ancients, they all get the same attention to the details, urban or parkland:thumbup:

[Gollum]

 

A 50 year old oak struck by lightning is a veteran.

 

Now this is what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

So with a lightning strike that can be clear.

 

With dead wood would 30% be a veteran