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[WoodED]

Am i being fussy- should someone whose spent 2 years at college doing arb to be able to id an ash tree - in fact any tree , is it teaching standards or the youth of today !

 

i find i learnt more by learning in the workplace as a apprentise

[Treemon]

One more point - he cant sharpen a saw - cant work out which file to use ( oh and hes ahd well over a week off due to playing rugby - in different weeks!)

[samthescam]

One more point - he cant sharpen a saw - cant work out which file to use ( oh and hes ahd well over a week off due to playing rugby - in different weeks!)

 

Evidently he doesnt have tickets . Stop being a mug and sack him if your serious. People are begging for work out of college on here...

[showoffsummer]

Am i being fussy- should someone whose spent 2 years at college doing arb to be able to id an ash tree - in fact any tree , is it teaching standards or the youth of today !

 

I wish I could say this is a once off for students, but Ive just completed my level 3 diploma at a college which im not going to name for the obvious reasons.

 

me and id say 75% studied very hard for the whole course like you should the majority got awarded with a triple distinction, and then people who were only trying to achive the pass or merit got awarded with a triple distinction. I personally think if you did a ID with students at my past college with just basic trees I reckon only 90% of them would pass.

 

to be honest I think its the same with the cs units how people are passing them when no where near competent.

 

friday night rant over!!!

 

cheers ciaran glyde

[Treemon]

Evidently he doesnt have tickets . Stop being a mug and sack him if your serious. People are begging for work out of college on here...

 

Oh hes got tickets - question is do we carry on and try and teach him ?

[samthescam]

Oh hes got tickets - question is do we carry on and try and teach him ?

 

Depends if you want to. If he works hard and is keen then I'd try and get him straight. However it's a bit scary that he has been doing it at college for two years and doesn't know the difference between a flat file and a round one...

 

I'd be a lot more concerned about that rather than his ident issues.

[David Goss]

I could string you all a shed-full of horrible nasty but true stories about my experiences teaching Arb at a college for 3 months, or even my experiences in arb in general ( I was not allowed to use a Stihl ms460 with a 20" bar because i didnt have CS32. no mention of years of experiences with 880's!!)

 

 

what has an ms460 with a 20" bar got to do with CS32?

I know your limited to bar length on the course but if you go out with a 20" bar or even the biggest bar you can stick on your 88 and cut down a tree thats the same size as your bar length then your still working under CS31 specs.

[Old Mill Tree Care]

Oh hes got tickets - question is do we carry on and try and teach him ?

 

Only you can answer that and you probably know the answer already.

 

Someone has said sack him as there are loads of guys on here looking for jobs but most of them could be useless too.

I get roughly one enquiry a month from people (on Arbtalk or on the phone) looking for a job so I know there is no shortage of labour but most of them reveal themselves as 'god in a harness' after one minute on the phone.

 

If you've already given the kid a chance for a few weeks and coached him as much as possible and still don't have an improvement, get a better replacement. Don't risk your gear or reputation any more.

The new guys have no comprehension at all as to the huge risk employers take by employing them. The newbie spends his first year wrecking and loosing gear and can destroy a reputation in 3seconds flat by thinking his back cuts are great!

People who think 'I'm good now!' never are. It's only when you stand up one day and think 'Wow, I've been rubbish for the last two years' that you begin to be truly viable to a firm.

 

Just my opinion, others will vary.