Don’t Drop it, Phat Strop it!

[Paul Smith]

I use a kevlar cable of a dead man switch from an out board engine. Magnet idea sounds good.

[Theocus]

I use a folding silky, a small silver bull bag. It also holds the secators as well!! Easy.

[Rupe]

 

... I heard of someone who used a retractable cat lead... it almost slashed through his chest! :-s

 

 

Who was that then? PLease give further information about this.

 

A cat (or small dog) dog lead has no spring power, it just retracts the lead if it goes slack. I use one on my comp saw and if I drop it at full stretch it will drop, there is not enough power to spring it back, unlike this bungee.

 

At full strectch it would fire the saw back at the user. If you fumble a handsaw its best to let it go than to try and catch it. Have you seen what a handsaw will do to climbing rope under normal tension?

[Lorry thompson]

Could you use it to secure your Helmet?Mines always falling off and the Straps underneath it arn't long enough to reach my Harness.

 

My chainsaw trousers manage to keep my helmet in place never needed to strap it to my harness:001_tt2:

[easy-lift guy]

easy-lift guy here, intresting product. Do you have anyone in the states showing this product at this time?. I have one Distributor in California that I could mention it to who sells to the tree care industry. He has done very well with my product in a short period of time. let me know by email All the best.

easy-lift guy:thumbup:

[Cutting-Edge Chris]

Hey All!!

 

Seems you've all been having a natter while I was away... i wish on a holiday but just no computer access!

 

Interesting stuff I've taken on board, the magnet idea is something we are developing with Tony and Di @ Sawpod... Watch this space, no point me waffling about a prototype!

 

To reassure you the outer material of the lanyard makes it hard to get a maximised taught so with something like a handsaw or any tool up 1.25kg the 'bouncebackability' is much less than say a heavier item. With Jonesie's new LOLER experience, we got some good feedback and reassurance too after we tested its weight capacity and motions when dropped.

 

The regs we noted relate to the HSE Working at Height Regulations 2005. According to point 39, regs 10 & 11:

 

"When working at height, you must prevent injury by doing all that is reasonably practical to prevent anything falling."

 

Hopefully this info is of interest...

 

Cheers guys

 

Chris

[BenR]

I suppose it all depends on personal taste and what is 'reasonably practical' to you. I have enough stuff dangling about off the harness as it is. So an extra thing to get tangled is probably not reasonably practical for me. The magnet is doing a good job so far and I have never dropped it when its been in my hand. Only out of the sheath and the magnet deals with that. Certainly an interesting idea though and could be pretty good with some time to get used to it I would think.

[Cutting-Edge Chris]

Hey Ben, good shout on the feedback, just out of interest have you ever come across our polesaws recently? Only reason I say is that with your feedback I hope we can do the same kind of developments with the Phat Strop as we have with the handsaws and polesaws so you have the option much like Stihl and Husqvarna... but Cutting-Edge and Silky.

 

I know the feeling as a walking arb xmas tree when everythings hanging from the harness, as an option the Phat Strop just gives peace of mind and avoids the hassle.

 

Are you going to any shows coming up? We're doing ArbFair North, AA, ArborCamp Jonesie's show... be good if all can catch up

[Andy Collins]

I think there are a couple of problems with the Phat-strop. No 1 is the rrp, too dear tbh, and No2 its basically a simple idea but 'phatter' a bit like sticking wider tyres on old wheels. Yes its looks nice and blingy, but I feel it will end up at best thrown in the bottom of climbing bags to suffer an undignifed end.

Your name "Cutting Edge" signifies something thats leading the market, not following the pack, i'd like to see an all-new, previously un-thought of product that is indeed Cutting Edge, tough opinion, but you're in a tough market. Good luck anyway Chris

[Andy Collins]

Field trialled the Phat-Strop yesterday, and seriously having problems finding an application for it. Its too damn boingy for a start. My Silky doesnt have a hole in the handle for a strop, and with the elastic around the grip it just didnt work for me, back to sawpod:thumbdown:, I then tried various other items dangled from it. A litre water bottle just stretched it too far for my liking, a slightly too heavy deadblow (3lb) stretched it to its limits, it was useful for a wedge when climbing, but yet to try for ground felling. And with a stubby felling lever on, again the elasticity rendered it useless IMO. How long will the elastic part at end last before sunlight and use breaks it down and it perishes, losing your tool into the bargain?

I'm trying to be objective and unbiased in my "research", but so far its getting a bit Phat Eurovision Nil points Sorry Chris, but the bottom of the bag is looming, that"s a bin bag, rather than climbing bag.

Rather than waste a product, i am willing to post this on FOC to anyone who wants to try it out.