ISA Certified Arborist looking to work in Uk

[Kev Stephenson]

With regards to the price, I am sure you could just do the test and not attend the training course if you feel you are able to complete all of the items on the assessment schedule.

 

If you have been using saws for a while and haven't picked up bad habits then certainly the 30/31 would be a breeze after reading the assessment schedules, 38/39 might be a bit more tricky if old habits creep in or you arent familiar with the rescue techniques.

 

Where are you based? There are a couple of NPTC examiners/trainers on here that are near to TK Forestry that you could probably talk to.

[treequip]

Hi there, apologies for the delay in replying but I've only just heard back from NPTC.

 

The reply from Frances Hirst (HSE), email: [email protected], is that an NPTC certifciate would be required to work legally in the UK.

 

The advice from Steve Hewitt (NPTC), email: [email protected], is that your previous qualification and experience would count towards 'training', as accreditation for prior learning, but again that the NPTC certificate of competence (CoC) is required.

 

This confirms my understanding of the situation and I do not think they will accept ISA Cert. Arb. as evidence of a national competence award as there is no practical skills assessment involved...but by all means ask.

 

Best regards, and good luck!

 

Paul

 

Paul,

 

I am going to have to ask you for a bit of clarification here, as I understand it competence is required but not specifically an NPTC competence.

 

Having said that NPTC is the default option for most

 

As far as certified arborists crossover to NPTC that’s a complete non starter, arborist certification is a purely theoretical qualification whereas NPTC is almost entirely practical.

 

 

Andy

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Paul,

 

I am going to have to ask you for a bit of clarification here, as I understand it competence is required but not specifically an NPTC competence.

 

Having said that NPTC is the default option for most

 

As far as certified arborists crossover to NPTC that’s a complete non starter, arborist certification is a purely theoretical qualification whereas NPTC is almost entirely practical.

 

 

Andy

 

Hi Andy, thanks for the post!

 

Fair comment, PUWER Reg 9 (Training) states that where a chainsaw is to be used on, or in, the tree then a 'certificate' of competence should be obtained.

 

As you say theereafter the only option I'm aware of is NPTC.

 

I will enquire further about any 'other' options, or national competence awards, with my colleague Simon Richmond tomorrow.

 

Cheers..

Paul

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Hi Andy, thanks for the post!

 

Fair comment, PUWER Reg 9 (Training) states that where a chainsaw is to be used on, or in, the tree then a 'certificate' of competence should be obtained.

 

As you say theereafter the only option I'm aware of is NPTC.

 

I will enquire further about any 'other' options, or national competence awards, with my colleague Simon Richmond tomorrow.

 

Cheers..

Paul

 

Hi all,

 

Just a quick ('yeah right!') further clarification here on the 'national competence award' and 'other' options.

 

Put simply (ME all over!) there aren't anyway, the 'nca' was an outline proposal by Lantra Awards back in 1998 which has never materialised and there are no 'other' options.

 

Suffice then to say that, curently, NPTC is the only way for chainsaw 'competenece'.

 

Thanks all.

Paul

[Island Lescure]

 

The reply from Frances Hirst (HSE), email: [email protected], is that an NPTC certifciate would be required to work legally in the UK.

 

The advice from Steve Hewitt (NPTC), email: [email protected], is that your previous qualification and experience would count towards 'training', as accreditation for prior learning, but again that the NPTC certificate of competence (CoC) is required.

 

This confirms my understanding of the situation and I do not think they will accept ISA Cert. Arb. as evidence of a national competence award as there is no practical skills assessment involved...but by all means ask.

 

Best regards, and good luck!

 

Paul

 

Hi, thanks for the replies. based in Sheffield.

 

hmm, accreditation for prior learning... ? Towards what? could that be clarified?

On another note.. How many assessments can be done in a day?

 

Suffice then to say that, curently, NPTC is the only way for chainsaw 'competenece'.

So once I have done cs30/31 it's enough?

 

cheers,

Island

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Hi, thanks for the replies. based in Sheffield.

 

hmm, accreditation for prior learning... ? Towards what? could that be clarified?

On another note.. How many assessments can be done in a day?

 

 

So once I have done cs30/31 it's enough?

 

cheers,

Island

 

hmm, accreditation for prior learning... ? Towards what? could that be clarified?

On another note.. How many assessments can be done in a day?

 

Essentially what NPTC are saying is that with your previous learning (ISA Cert Arb)and experience (on the saw and in the tree) you may not need to undergo the specific training that accompanies the NPTC assessment, typically. Just present yourself for NPTC assessment...typically one or two assessments a day I would have thought.

 

The CS30/31 only covers chainsaws on the ground, and ideally CS32 (medium trees) would also be obtained. In terms of aerial units you would require CS38, as was..'tree climbing and aerial rescue', and CS39 chainsaw from rope and harness (for which CS30/31 & 38 are prerequisites.)

 

Thereafter, in order to complete the suite, CS41 is sectional felling with lowering systems.

 

It's all heavily legislated and controlled here in the UK...hope you still wanna come!

 

Cheers..

Paul