Fair competition?

[samtheman365]

and i dont think calling someone ill educated samtheman is very nice, the lady was speaking obviously off the cuff with hot headed remarks to let off steam on a forum

joy

 

And i think going to beat someone up is not nice either!!!!

[18 stoner]

Esse only put the MC advice on the website following numerous complaints about there range cooker tarring up. In my opinion even 25% is to wet for our Esse it really needs to be below 20% to get the quoted performance.

 

 

I feel there should be an industry standard that states the term "seasoned" means a guaranteed level of moisture, and that should be 20% or less IMO.

 

Those who say 25% is fine, are kidding themselves as well as their customers, as any of us know there is a big difference in burning, tarring etc.

 

Perhaps the reason is due to time required to season and not what they believe is correct advice. I have some sycamore and ash that was felled and processed at the beginning of September and is already down to 26-28%. It will take probably another 6 to 8 months before its below 20% though, so the ones thinking 25% is fine may sell it this year. I wont, instead it will be my first selling top quality stuff for next winter(2011/2012) and will be around the 16-17% mark.

[Mesterh]

 

I feel there should be an industry standard that states the term "seasoned" means a guaranteed level of moisture, and that should be 20% or less IMO.

 

Those who say 25% is fine, are kidding themselves as well as their customers, as any of us know there is a big difference in burning, tarring etc.

 

Perhaps the reason is due to time required to season and not what they believe is correct advice. I have some sycamore and ash that was felled and processed at the beginning of September and is already down to 26-28%. It will take probably another 6 to 8 months before its below 20% though, so the ones thinking 25% is fine may sell it this year. I wont, instead it will be my first selling top quality stuff for next winter(2011/2012) and will be around the 16-17% mark.

 

 

How do you get it that low?

[Big J]

I think that if timber is stored outside, it's not physically possible to get the MC down to 16% during winter. The equilibrium MC for timber air drying outside in Scotland varies depending on the time of year, but at it's lowest, it's about 14% (in August) and at it's highest, it's around 20% (December). Unless stored in such a way that encourages additional drying (clear plastic roof on log store for instance), it's not possible to get the logs drier than that outdoors.

 

That said, 16% is achievable if the timber is sold in September or October and has had the summer to dry. It will however take on moisture throughout winter, but there isn't much that can be done I suppose.