Interesting Oak

[Matthew Arnold]

Nope. If it is a confirmed roost no work can be done at all. Not even with a crane and a mewp. As there would be too much disturbance.

[Matthew Arnold]

I like the fence idea, I also saw a sign in another thread that said something like "I am an old tree, please enjoy me from a safe distance"

 

 

We leave a 5 metre gap between the lower branches and the fence post becuase we don't want to repair or replace the rails everytime it drops a piece of deadwood or a branch.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Only if its identified as a active roost or is deamed to be potentially used roost. Yes it could be look at as you do but all my bat surveys i've had done say 'it could be used by bats but there were no signs of used habitat by bats' In all fairness every dead tree must be protected the especially if it has ivy or flaking bark.

 

IME bats tend to use most roosts as a nomadic affair, maybe only for a night, very little evidence would be present, and given the nomadic nature of these wonderfull ammals and the distinct lack of hollow trees one should do all possible to retain this valuable niche.

 

even though technicaly you are correct, and observation of eveidence is the only factor that makes it technicaly classified habitat, this is however a very nieve standpoint and one that needs addresing pronto IMO

[chris cnc]

Nope. If it is a confirmed roost no work can be done at all. Not even with a crane and a mewp. As there would be too much disturbance.

 

I see. Is it possible for bats to be "re-housed"?

 

For example in the extreme circumstance that this tree was leaning over a basket full of new born babies thus HAD to be removed. (you cannot move the babies).

[Matthew Arnold]

Funnily enough i just did a Bats and their relationship with Trees course. And any tree with a defect no matter how low to the ground it is they can still use it as a roost. They can crawl into tiny little gaps between bark and even the splits of a torn limb. We have a couple of trees on our site of which i shall try and get pictures of that are known bat roosts. We have a couple of structures on our sites which are also used by bats.

[Ian Flatters]

IME bats tend to use most roosts as a nomadic affair, maybe only for a night, very little evidence would be present, and given the nomadic nature of these wonderfull ammals and the distinct lack of hollow trees one should do all possible to retain this valuable niche.

 

even though technicaly you are correct, and observation of eveidence is the only factor that makes it technicaly classified habitat, this is however a very nieve standpoint and one that needs addresing pronto IMO

 

Not Nieve at all tbh, I see what's being asked and as an arb type i see that if it is deamed a problem it should be delt with correctly. I've been on a number of bat courses over the years as part of my cpd's from the last company i worked for. If you read my posts as the questions progress i adapt to what is being asked. Human life is valued higher than any bat. Im sure if it went to court with your recommendation to leave it as it could have bats would put you in a lovely deep hole. I feel that you are being nieve thinking that as question states high volume of people and traffic. I.E. busy main road into a city??

 

Not a dig or a rant just a reply to your comment of calling me nieve.

[chris cnc]

Sounds interesting, I would like to do a bat course. I have heard they can get into some pretty small spaces, such as under cracked sycamore bark.

[Ian Flatters]

Funnily enough i just did a Bats and their relationship with Trees course. And any tree with a defect no matter how low to the ground it is they can still use it as a roost. They can crawl into tiny little gaps between bark and even the splits of a torn limb. We have a couple of trees on our site of which i shall try and get pictures of that are known bat roosts. We have a couple of structures on our sites which are also used by bats.

 

pip will fit in a match box!!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Not Nieve at all tbh, I see what's being asked and as an arb type i see that if it is deamed a problem it should be delt with correctly. I've been on a number of bat courses over the years as part of my cpd's from the last company i worked for. If you read my posts as the questions progress i adapt to what is being asked. Human life is valued higher than any bat. Im sure if it went to court with your recommendation to leave it as it could have bats would put you in a lovely deep hole. I feel that you are being nieve thinking that as question states high volume of people and traffic. I.E. busy main road into a city??

 

Not a dig or a rant just a reply to your comment of calling me nieve.

 

Not at all, wasnt calling YOU nieve, just the paperwork/conditions.

 

A woodland path is hardly high priority, and to be honest, a woodland path is invading into nature, are we to eradicate risks just so we can "visit":thumbdown:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Sounds interesting, I would like to do a bat course. I have heard they can get into some pretty small spaces, such as under cracked sycamore bark.

 

Hazard beams are a top bat place, though I wouldnt want to sleep in a gap of a hazard beam! SQUISH!

 

its suprising what they will use as a temporary shelter, standing dead oaks with big flaky portions of bark are also high on the tenancy listings:001_huh: