Whats with supplying by the ton's???

[yaxleylad]

How is it that firewood logs are sold (wholesale at least) by the ton? I aleways thought traditionally any timber should be sold by volume not weight. Your ton of fresh cut logs will be a lot less when its dry. U could stick a load of wet beech in and a ton wont be much at all. But a ton of birch that was cut and stood for a year as logs will give you a bigger amount. Why did this change happen and is it a good or bad thing, I find its confusing same as with every dealer seems to have different criteria for there amounts/loads calculation (whatever fits in my trailer, builders bag, jc b bucket etc etc)

[Dean Lofthouse]

How is it that firewood logs are sold (wholesale at least) by the ton? I aleways thought traditionally any timber should be sold by volume not weight. Your ton of fresh cut logs will be a lot less when its dry. U could stick a load of wet beech in and a ton wont be much at all. But a ton of birch that was cut and stood for a year as logs will give you a bigger amount. Why did this change happen and is it a good or bad thing, I find its confusing same as with every dealer seems to have different criteria for there amounts/loads calculation (whatever fits in my trailer, builders bag, jc b bucket etc etc)

 

Logs should always be sold by volume and nothing else.

 

Everyone knows what a cubic metre looks like, imo there is no such thing as a ton of logs.

[Andy Collins]

as far as I'm aware, to sell by the ton(ne) you better be careful. weights & measures would make sure it is a ton(ne). You are right, safer to sell by the load ie cubic metres.

[Steve Bullman]

i think yaxley is referring to bought in cord?

[yaxleylad]

i think yaxley is referring to bought in cord?

 

To be honest Steve I was pleasantly surprised to find a place that still sold proper cords of logs, they have them all marked out with proper posts and tanilise'd rails on the floor. In fact they were a bit on the generous side, more like 5x4x8You can visualise volume, who can visualise "a ton" of whatever speceis?

Maybe with the big wagons if theres 3 bays and say 24 tons total a bay is 8 tons, half a bay 4 tons etc? So they lift off the rough amount?

[Steve Bullman]

when i buy in timber it goes over the weighbridge everytime and i get the ticket

then i sell it out by the cube, senseless i know!

[Log-ologist]

I'm looking to buy in cordwood this year to suplement my stash. Good old fashioned beech cordwood at roadside. I sell by the half and full load on a 2.2 cubic metre tranny tipper. I always cut to the required length and split the logs so that I can pick it up with one hand.

[dazlog]

I always have bother explaining to customers how much is in a load. I think the cube is the only way. A cord what sort of volume is that ? sorry if that sounds like a thick question.

[yaxleylad]

cord is a pre metric (ie english) imperial measure

Its just a word to describe a standard specific volume 4x4x8 feet (128 cu ft) that every one can understand and relate to and hopefully abide by(I find it extremely confusing when one dealer says "one of them trailer ful's lad" another says "however many log's you can get in my pick up, or tractor bukcet..... " another says "whatevr fits in this bowler hatt" If every one uses the same measure (a cord, or if your european, a cubic meter) we all on the same wave length. When theres so many versions of "weights and measures" its hard to compare price/amount. even in tesco's they show the price per 100 grams even if the item weighs 345g so you can compare on a level playing field, I dont know if thats a legal requirement?

[Dean Lofthouse]

A builders bag full

 

Everyone knows what a builders bag is.

 

It's where some of them keep their crown jewels