red diesel

[nuggsy]

does anyone know the laws on running red diesel in unimogs and tractors in the arb industry ?

 

for example is it legal to run a tractor with a botex trailer loaded with timber, on red diesel ?

 

any help would be appreciated

 

Allan

[treequip]

There was a thread on this recently.

 

In a nutshell you can’t use goods to carry goods for hire or reward on the highway.

 

There are some limited exemptions but none that apply to the removal of arb arising’s or harvested timber.

[nuggsy]

right no probs so white diesel it is then

[santacruz]

You can carry goods from a piece of land that you own to another piece of land that you own. You can also carry goods such as wood back to your yard on red if the vehicle was used on site to perform an essential task. For example because your tractor was used to load the trailer then using red to haul that trailer back to your yard is ok. If the trailer was without loader, and was loaded by another machine, then red is no, as that is simple haulage.

[treequip]

You can also carry goods such as wood back to your yard on red if the vehicle was used on site to perform an essential task. For example because your tractor was used to load the trailer then using red to haul that trailer back to your yard is ok. If the trailer was without loader, and was loaded by another machine, then red is no, as that is simple haulage.

 

Can we have a citation for that please?

[dazlog]

I`ve just been through this with revenue people with my mog. Got away with fine but will be running on white with the mog from now on. The best thing you can do is go along and have a chat with them. Explain what gear you`ve got what ur doing with it let them tell you. Even they are not that sure what the regs are.

[walkerboys]

we got stoped with our mog by vosa not on the motoway was just a A road they asked how was the chipper powered i said by the mog engine he went to his van made a phone call and then said that is fine carry on so from wot i can gather its jst a massive gray area

[dazlog]

Yes powering the chipper off the mog on red is fine however you would have to remove the back bodie and have it as a cab chassis as no load or goods can be carried. Like you say this is a very grey area.

[nuggsy]

hmmm does sound very lacking in knowledge on the police/vosa behalf. its strange how northumberland and lancashire have 2 different views on it

[treequip]

we got stoped with our mog by vosa not on the motoway was just a A road they asked how was the chipper powered i said by the mog engine he went to his van made a phone call and then said that is fine carry on so from wot i can gather its jst a massive gray area

 

VOSA aren’t empowered to enforce fuel breaches, that’s HMCE. The call probably told them that HMCE didn’t have an enforcement team available.

 

It’s not a grey area once you understand who does what.