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30 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

Looking over at another thread it seems like he has Micky Mouse tickets, from a Micky mouse instructor, and is now happy climbing on Micky Mouse Chinese gear. 😂

I never knew Micky Mouse was Chinese 

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5 hours ago, Will C said:

If the flip line has no ce mark or id how are you going to get to loler tested? I wouldn’t test it, to me this says it’s junk. It may well be fit for purpose but if it can’t be tested expect your insurance company to walk away if anything goes wrong!

Im excempt from the LOLER bolllocks as Im a recreation climber, mostly doing it for fun and beer monies. My boss tells me insurance is never worth the paper its written on which is true, no one climbs with 2 ropes to the HSE specification... And so many other issues that would void a claim.

Most of my kit is well past its LOLER date, however I am more competent than most LOLER testers that I've met and I do check it myself. I'd like to see HSE try me in court!

I also do my own splices.

 

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5 hours ago, 5thelement said:

Looking over at another thread it seems like he has Micky Mouse tickets, from a Micky mouse instructor, and is now happy climbing on Micky Mouse Chinese gear. 😂

Your the one in disney land Frenchy.

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Anyone that says insurance isn't worth the paper it's written on, probably doesn't have it.

 

Whilst I do agree to the sentiment, the HSE and police will not look favourably upon corporate manslaughter and a whole list of other charges they will throw your way.

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We do have insurance its just I dont believe I would ever benefit from it, and I hope it is never needed. If I injure myself using my own gear I dont think I have any right to. Its a bit different when your employer supplies the kit which may not be up to standard.

 

Anyway if Im dead or seriously injured, they can fine me all they like as I wont be able to pay a penny! Insurance is, after all, only about money, nothing more, keeping the bankers rich.

 

While I like climbing with multiple tie ins, I have never seen anyone else in the industry do it and is likely the best example. I've also never seen a written risk assesment by anyone I worked with - thats a big HSE fine just waiting for an excuse.

 

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There's a phrase, ignorance is not a legal defense.

 

Hence, you're dead, they knew and they're deemed at fault and or equally responsible because they could have done something.

 

I'm sure a better legal eagle can explain it better than me. Think there is a legal way of agreeing to bring your own but that's probably a minefield in itself.

 

Lone working is a different matter tho, as that's my health and my safety, so jog on 🙂.

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