merrip beech???

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Do you plan to retrenchment prune it? I mean if and when it shoots from the inner scaffolds will you plan to stage reduce the profile of the crown into a pre arranged or desired lower profile over a long period?

[MattyF]

Depends on what happens next!I doubt the customer would want a tree ending up in a 40% mutalated reduction and in my experience it does not work ....I had one huge merip beech we did a 35% reduction with that in mind we did in hitchen and it blow over no main roots intact at all ....another a 40% we did with a cherry picker( this tree was a monster!!at st christophers school in letchworth and it still snapped ,from the photos of this tree though you can see there is two houses in close proximity so if it does happen to explode in more fungal fruiting bodys it will be fire wood.

 

I dont think it will .. any way who is andrew what can he do for detection of decay is this the thermal decay detection???customer is prettty tight but i have some more work to do soon so can make a sudgestion!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Depends on what happens next!I doubt the customer would want a tree ending up in a 40% mutalated reduction and in my experience it does not work ....I had one huge merip beech we did a 35% reduction with that in mind we did in hitchen and it blow over no main roots intact at all ....another a 40% we did with a cherry picker( this tree was a monster!!at st christophers school in letchworth and it still snapped ,from the photos of this tree though you can see there is two houses in close proximity so if it does happen to explode in more fungal fruiting bodys it will be fire wood.

 

I dont think it will .. any way who is andrew what can he do for detection of decay is this the thermal decay detection???customer is prettty tight but i have some more work to do soon so can make a sudgestion!

 

Andrew cowen, in here he is Batiarb, he could do a root investigation with airspades and give a detailed report on the extent and stabilty of the root system. would be the right way to go about it and the client will probably acknowlege your efforts to assist in this trees retention.

[John Hancock]

Or excavate selected roots with a trowel.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Or excavate selected roots with a trowel.

 

That isnt going to tell you much though is it john?

 

Wouldnt you want more than a minimal trowel investigation considering what is already known of this tree?

 

and the beauty of the air spade is minimal damage, digging destroys the fine roots, critical at this stage. Not only that but some airspading might help relieve some compaction and assist the tree back to health?

[John Hancock]

That isnt going to tell you much though is it john?

 

Wouldnt you want more than a minimal trowel investigation considering what is already known of this tree?

 

and the beauty of the air spade is minimal damage, digging destroys the fine roots, critical at this stage. Not only that but some airspading might help relieve some compaction and assist the tree back to health?

 

It’ll tell me the extent of decay on the underside of some of the main supporting roots. It’ll defiantly give me more information than doing nothing, and a trowel is considerably less expensive than an air-spade. I’m not to bothered about the fine roots as I wouldn’t be excavating in that area anyway.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

It’ll tell me the extent of decay on the underside of some of the main supporting roots. It’ll defiantly give me more information than doing nothing, and a trowel is considerably less expensive than an air-spade. I’m not to bothered about the fine roots as I wouldn’t be excavating in that area anyway.

 

on the contrary, combined with the biulding work and probable minor root severance and Meripilus its roots may well be re establishing closer to the main body of the trunk/root flare. Similar to a root prune, there may be considerable regeneration of fine rootlets establishing close to the trunk.

 

Similar to the situation in the article Andrew cowen wrote on the Oak with grifola, though not quiet as old and ramified as that oak! just similar changes going on.

[MattyF]

Interesting i will certainly mention it to them when i go back......

[John Hancock]

on the contrary, combined with the biulding work and probable minor root severance and Meripilus its roots may well be re establishing closer to the main body of the trunk/root flare. Similar to a root prune, there may be considerable regeneration of fine rootlets establishing close to the trunk.

 

Similar to the situation in the article Andrew cowen wrote on the Oak with grifola, though not quiet as old and ramified as that oak! just similar changes going on.

 

There may well be, a trowel round the base of the tree would soon tell me.