Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

[Stephen Blair]

well fella, your tone, suggests different. and if you have THAT cosy a life good for you mate, i cant say the same, I have still to work almost seven days a week, when work is avaliable, not lately i cant afford this mortgage on a house i cant afford to renovate, going to school for fees i cant afford and driving a clapped out ford escort that is JUST legal, but I still love my life!

 

its soulfull man!

 

I know exactly where you are coming from tony, you remind me of me a few years ago, you are not happy in life so you are idealising what would be the perfect life. But that doesnt solve your problems just now, if you are working 7 days a week, have a crapy car and cant afford to live, then you need to sort yourself out, doing a course you cant afford isnt going to help, you need to get a hold of your life and make a plan. You have told us you have been robbed, left with finance and debt, you must be stressed out your head. Why dont you have a read through my stress thread mate, i think you will be able to relate to a few things:001_smile:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I know exactly where you are coming from tony, you remind me of me a few years ago, you are not happy in life so you are idealising what would be the perfect life. But that doesnt solve your problems just now, if you are working 7 days a week, have a crapy car and cant afford to live, then you need to sort yourself out, doing a course you cant afford isnt going to help, you need to get a hold of your life and make a plan. You have told us you have been robbed, left with finance and debt, you must be stressed out your head. Why dont you have a read through my stress thread mate, i think you will be able to relate to a few things:001_smile:

 

I am not that stressed shreks wee brother, i get out for one day in an ancient wood and all my troubles fade away, as soon as i see an old tree or a new fungus i am "healed" Its funny, i found the olive oysterling a few weeks ago, my first record of it, it is these things that make my life a happy one, the rest is just life, and i get on with it, but my walks with my dog camera in hand, thats our time, and we make the absolute most of it. maybe more than most as it is a rare event to me, special times worth living for.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

as for sorting myself out, thats why im doing the school thing, without it I am unemployable for anything other than climbing and i already get top wack on that front, less anyone here has a better offer!

[Stephen Blair]

i am the same mate, i walk my dogs in the woods and take pictures, but a few years ago when i came back home the bills and the debt and the grief would still be there, it took me 3 years to get it sorted properly, its funny, i bumped my thread for you and had a little look at the first few pages, when i started it i was really skint because i still had some kit needing sold(i still do) but i was on my journey and i had a plan, this place has saved me, and i think it will help you to, hell you are on talking to me at 01.43am on chrimbo eve, i am addicted to this place as you can probably tell, but it isnt eating into my family time just now and i will be up at 7.30am with the boys.

[Stephen Blair]

i am off to bed, i see you are on my stress thread, good man. night night:thumbup1:

[Graham]

i hate to have to drop a reality bombshell but in those days while the money might not have been great often housing came with the job, a lot of food would have been readily avaliable on the estate and to be honest, Most people would be happy with the pressure release of that lifestyle.

 

Can I just post my comments regarding this debate. My dad had me very late in life. He was born in 1906 the son of a sheperd and the youngest of three brothers and three sisters. He was awarded a scholarship but because of the hard financial reality of the time started work at 14 as did his siblings.

 

All the boys went into estate work and the girls into service. The reality of estate work was 5am start with the horses until whatever time they finished. That meant living above the stables winter and summer until he married and moved into a tied cottage. Ok that meant free milk and the odd rabbit etc!

 

In 1957 he broke free from estate work but never lost the work ethic. A full-time job, an acre of veg garden, pigs and a thousand chickens. On top of that sundays were spent odd jobbing for farmers etc.

 

His sole intention in all this was that my sister and I would never have to endure the 'pressure relief' of that estate lifestyle. Maybe he was misguided...I'll never know. Enough of my ramblings:001_smile:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Can I just post my comments regarding this debate. My dad had me very late in life. He was born in 1906 the son of a sheperd and the youngest of three brothers and three sisters. He was awarded a scholarship but because of the hard financial reality of the time started work at 14 as did his siblings.

 

All the boys went into estate work and the girls into service. The reality of estate work was 5am start with the horses until whatever time they finished. That meant living above the stables winter and summer until he married and moved into a tied cottage. Ok that meant free milk and the odd rabbit etc!

 

In 1957 he broke free from estate work but never lost the work ethic. A full-time job, an acre of veg garden, pigs and a thousand chickens. On top of that sundays were spent odd jobbing for farmers etc.

 

His sole intention in all this was that my sister and I would never have to endure the 'pressure relief' of that estate lifestyle. Maybe he was misguided...I'll never know. Enough of my ramblings:001_smile:

 

point taken and duly noted, but dont you think we just have "different" hardships now? like everything is relative?

[Graham]

point taken and duly noted, but dont you think we just have "different" hardships now? like everything is relative?

 

 

I think it's easy to look back and see a more relaxed, romantic lifestyle and miss the hardships.....and yes we do have different hardships/pressures now. Our children will look back to this time and see that rose-tinted life we are going through.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I think it's easy to look back and see a more relaxed, romantic lifestyle and miss the hardships.....and yes we do have different hardships/pressures now. Our children will look back to this time and see that rose-tinted life we are going through.

 

do you not think though that if we can combine much of the older ways with the best of the modern we will have a better richer society and lives? rather than just throwing away what is essentialy essentail skills?

 

what if there was a pandemic in 200 years time and all those people living so lost from nature had to suddenly get on with it? modern life is at present unsustainable, and prone to catastrophe, is it not?

[Graham]

do you not think though that if we can combine much of the older ways with the best of the modern we will have a better richer society and lives? rather than just throwing away what is essentialy essentail skills?

 

what if there was a pandemic in 200 years time and all those people living so lost from nature had to suddenly get on with it? modern life is at present unsustainable, and prone to catastrophe, is it not?

 

Ah in this throw away society even skills are not immune. Yes I do believe that if the pandemic scenario happened many people would not have the skills to survive.

 

This is not their fault. We all rely on a small percentage of people (farmers, growers) to provide for us in a busy life. What I see of more concern is the agricultural and forestry monoculture. Vast tracts of the same species/var. being wiped out by whatever superbug or disease that we are incapable of controlling. So as long as we all demand cheap food diversity in agriculture won't happen unless we dig deep and pay up.