Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

[Andy Collins]

Proper tree management = deadwooding/safety works, pollarding, coppicing, and finally felling. Everything else is just beautifying for our enjoyment.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

yes i agree, whilst I wont deny the place for aesthetics and amenity value, the most revered, characterfull, biologicaly diverse trees are old pollards, they are safe, home to hundreds if not thousands of organisms above ground, and millions below.

 

They carry rare fungi and beetle populations through the ages, centuries, and if we dont have pollards in our towns, the rural ones will become so distant and fragmented those life forms will degrade as their genes gradualy fizzle out as they have no accses to a diverse range/community.

 

too many benifits to list, and seriously, does a tree care that its hairs in a mess today? lol

 

i love trees, but no one is going to tell me that pollarding an oak in a small urban garden is NOT better than felling it.

 

And shigo i am sure said it was better to fell than top/pollard IS the same thing! all internodal

Edited December 23, 2009 by Tony Croft aka hamadryad

[Lee Winger]

95% of pollarded trees aren't pollards at all, and 95% of tree surgeons [so called] wouldn't know how to pollard a tree if there life depended on it..........

[skyhuck]

not one mention of the continuation of fungi and beetle habitation, !

 

Yes they did

 

A "true" pollard does not have all the rot and cavity's that are so helpful to assorts of invertebrates and other creatures, .

 

But hey I guess I should just quit posting in your threads, as you never reply to them with any thing of real substance or ignore them completely

 

Real shame really as when you first started posting I thought there was going to be some real interesting debates.

[Lee Winger]

 

And shigo i am sure said it was better to fell than top/pollard IS the same thing! all internodal

 

In that case he was wrong, unless of course the tree becomes a hazard. I used to preach on and on about , proper pruning techniques etc, but imo [environmentally speaking] a topped tree has more going for us [the planet] than a pruned tree with all those sterile unnatural cuts...........

Edited December 23, 2009 by Lee Winger

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Yes they did

 

 

But hey I guess I should just quit posting in your threads, as you never reply to them with any thing of real substance or ignore them completely

 

Real shame really as when you first started posting I thought there was going to be some real interesting debates.

 

I sincerely apologise old chum, as for not posting in my threads, thats your choice, i aint going to cry over it! all you do is grill meand give me a hard time anyways! lol, tis all good though.

 

as for my content having no substance, your absolutley right hence I am keeping back till i work out how to explain what i am saying and what i mean.

 

i aint a smart arse, and I have no education, so forgive my ordasity in having any attempt at an opinion!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

in fact, stuff it, I cant be bothered. L8ers.

[Lee Winger]

In fact I'm all for nasty looking tears too

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

In fact I'm all for nasty looking tears too

 

sarcy!

[Lee Winger]

sarcy!

 

No seriously, in the correct environment of course............