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On 18/01/2023 at 23:41, john87 said:

Ok, so  you find a large willow complete with fungus growing out of it over a primary school yard. What makes you think you would be justified in not removing it..

 

john..

Depends on the fungus, condition of the tree, value of tree and what other options are available such as pruning.

Very sad case and sorry to hear about it 

Thanks John

As a surveyor hearing about these cases are a great motivation to not get complacent. And also to learn from.

It would be good if there was a good reference to cases involving trees. I am sure there is. Maybe there is that you know of. I want this book but not sure if it has much and not sure if I can justify the expense if not- The law of trees, Forests and Hedges (3rd edition)

The Law of Trees, Forests and Hedges: 3rd Edition from Summerfield Books

WWW.SUMMERFIELDBOOKS.COM

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Buy The Law of Trees, Forests and Hedges: 3rd Edition Hardback by Dr Charles Mynors, Elizabeth Nicholls, Stephanie Hall ISBN: 9780414103009

Thanks John. Interesting read and a sad case. What was the verdict and outcome?

Thanks for the post. I had never heard of this and a good find. Hopefully cheep hard copies will appear (just had a look and could not find) and the UK will use as like you said the BS one is a crazy price. Although I wonder how many on the tools would make the effort to read either. I feel the fact its an EU standard gives it weight however I wonder if that will be an acceptable standard for the UK to formally use now were not in it.

Where are you based? If I was you try and find some surveyors to shadow and see if you like it. As Sutton said their most likely working alone all day, every day so would not mind a bit of company and to showcase what they do. 

On 02/11/2022 at 23:56, woodchipperer said:

I find this really interesting. 

"found the answer" they wanted, not necessarily the correct answer when you account for all the new research

 Are your referring to to Duncan Slater's work? I like how he pointed out and documented how unions change over time and one union can be  a mix of types depending on what side of the tree you look at it from. And not to judge a union alone but to look at the growth structure above the union, the angles and if there are any rubbing branches or 'natural bracing'. That was my take on it anyway. I saw a cut up tree recently which had about 1m of vertical growth on top of an old union which illustrated this perfectly. 

Racists!

where are you based? Again PTI. The level 4 is well worth it just allow yourself plenty of free time for the course work to make it more enjoyable

Look into doing level 2 or 4 course. Can do part time around work and gives you underpinning knowledge needed plus will set you up well for the future in arb.

What happened to the tree  benedmonds?

What was the lab result  Paul Barton?

Sorted now thanks. Gonna be a long drive!

Hello all

Is anyone running a PTI course this winter near me (North Wales) or closer than south of England where I have seen a few advertised?

It’s just for me.

Thanks in advance,

Dan

Thanks guys and hello Pat! Pat I may do that. I'll try and find mine first but that may be useful thanks.

It's good to hear those positive comments and may book soon. If so will put another post out in fact looking for a nearer venue. Living in north Wales.

Another possibility is doing some utility qualifications but need to do some research. 

I have some temp work now but thinking ahead and also covering my arse a bit.

Just looking into doing a PTI course again. Every training provider for years says something along the lines of this .- ‘’You will also need to be thoroughly experienced in carrying out tree inspections and surveys’’

Surely the whole point of doing training courses such as this is to get a job so one can start doing such a thing the course teaches. So don’t understand the exclusiveness and backwardness of such prerequisites.

Do people agree and does anyone care to elaborate?

For the record I have over 6 years practical experience climbing and Level 4 and some surveying experience so not quite what the course asks for maybe.

Fosseway Tree Services have one and do that. Not to far from Bristol. They have trained staff who can be used with it. I used to work with them. 

I've just spent a small fortune on a second climbing system and I've noticed that a rope wrench has 2017 stamped on it (not checked other kit yet). The company i work for also uses a loler inspector who fails stuff left right and centre and I'm worried that this rope wrench would get failed after just 3 years since it would then be 5 years old. 

So two questions.-

1. Do people remember to buy kit with fresh dates on?

2. Do people think I'm entitled to a replacement from the shop?

I know these are slightly mad questions but I think the stuff I've had fail loler is mad too.

Thanks in advance

IM just finishing l4 now at treelife and booked to do level6.

Dont worry about the money and do it! - You'll easily save that money as you won't have time to go out and spend it anyway

Hi

Good to hear you keen and enjoying the tree work.

I can vouch for the level 2 ABC course.

I did mine with HCC (Horticultural Correspondence College), distance learning which worded out well.

If you come down south do it at Tree Life wich is distance learning with about 13 lectures. They I think most people would agree they are the best arb learning providers,

Good luck

dan

save the pigeons. Get a job as a game keeper or something if you wanna get paid for killing wildlife.

well done. Not many have. I dont think youll need it in tree work but I think its better than the blake hitch with the climbing rope IMO. That was the hardest part of the course for me learning that bloody knot which I would never use.

Good luck with the job. Im sure youll find a simple solution,

Hi. Im also a Dan from Bath.

Your making this way to complicated. I see 3 options if you cant leave your self some kind of anchor here and keep it simple:

1.cut ivy back. IT grows back

2. spike down only damaging the ivy

3. use s cambium saver or make one with a sling/strop and crab

Worse that can ever happen is you leave something behind, lowering of it.

In rock climbing it is done often. Use a rope doubled so you can pull it down. Its possable to absail without a special device to-Look up munter hitch.

Its worth thinking about these things as an escape plan if you are ever in the ****.

Thanks guys! I just hit the books and found the answer in Body language of trees. I nearly fell asleep though! Love it really but I'm finding the branch attachment thing a bit hard to grasp.

Thanks for the links JaySmith. I'm looking forward to going through that and it will be really helpful for another assignment.

daltontrees you are cruel but I understand and appreciate the post. Its good to hear from people on hear as theirs a lot of knowledge and experience.

Thanks.

I have 'Principles of Tree Hazard Assessment and Management' which is great. I don't have it on me today though.

I'm doing level 4 treelife course at Westonburt. That's great too.!

We have studied Slater's attachment theory a little. I have not got my head around that subject yet but I don't think I'm the only one!

Your right. I failed to spot that detail.

I mean in general, regardless of location and other details. Is there a correct or clear answer? I think have seen more compression and included faliures but maybe that's down to working mostly in peoples gardens where trees are more crowded.