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Andrew McEwan

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  1. A pair of 5ton rachet straps work well for pretensioning, or a little hand rachet winch mid tensioning line if the tree is larger. A spare friction hitch to put on the end of your bracing line so it can follow you about the tree is helpful, as are the usual tools on bits of cord, chunky scissors, insulation tape etc, and a little plywood bosuns chair/swing seat if you're going to be in a awkward spot for a bit (or like me are getting soft).

  2. Hi Patrick

    The ISA guide to tree support systems is a good reference, but mainly about steel cabling. Without opening a large can of worms, briefly I think parts of BS3998 are due updating, particularly pruning with bracing and tensioning, but I don't know of any new material out there, it'd be a good topic for the AA to cover in a new guide, and also then apply some pressure to the get  the 'shoulds'  removed from 3998.

    If Kevin Moore is running any bracing courses he is well worth listening to on the subject, but you will find equally valid and very different approaches and thoughts on materials from Rob Knott (Nod at treeworker) and others.

    Probably like a lot of arb it is down to experience and educated guess work, and well due some long term studies on the synthetic systems, but even with them (when someone does them!) as a foundation there are so many variables  to think about.

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  3. Has the bracing been recommended following a survey? If so the report should have been written to give you a detailed spec, what the brace is to achieve, position of brace, material type, material mbs etc, but you often see 'brace the tree' which isn't much help.

     

    If you haven't been given a useful spec it may be worth getting some experienced help in, as it's really easy to get the hang of the splicing part of it, then  hang something in a tree that isn't very useful, and there are lots of factors to consider, suspension or support system? preload or not? bracing pattern? and thinking about the pros and cons of different systems and attachments.

     

    Assuming you are thinking of using synthetic cabling (don't rule out rods or steel cable being better for the right spec), but suggest you leave boa and cobra alone as there are much easier (and better value) to use products available now, speak to Rob at Treeworker for materials.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

     The original scenario was rescuing a casualty in a situation where there line is compromised. Assuming there is a pre-installed static rescue line the quickest means of ascending to the casualty would be srt, on a rope wrench or similar. I'm not really talking about IRATA systems as the majority of tree workers aren't trained in using those systems. 

     

    On the CS38 course the trainees are taught to attach the casualty to the rescuer with two attachments. One bridge to bridge with a cutaway and the other with a prussik from the standing part of the rescuers system to the casualties bridge. This is the part that supports then so the rescuers line is taking the casualties weight, and this is the part that can't be done with an srt setup.  

    Hi Joe,

    It can be done on a single line, have a read through what I posted earlier, shout if any questions.

    Cheers

    Andrew

  5. On 21/10/2018 at 15:44, Joe Newton said:

     The question was about transferring a casualty onto your system. You can connect them to your bridge but there's no way of transferring them onto your climbing line like you learn to do on a doubled rope rescue

    Two lines are obviously much better but if you want a 'single line transfer to your line method' this works well, but only on shorter srt set ups, hitch hiker, rig, tazlov2 etc, but may be useful if you set it well and have long arms with a wrench, or ascend via wrench and then switch to a fig 8 to rescue

    1. Shorten bridge if possible

    2. Extend bridge with short sling with overhand knot at two thirds of it's length

    3. Clip friction device across knot so you have the short tail of the sling hanging free, but so you can still control descent and neck tether etc still works for ascent

    4. Attach casualty to tail of sling, (if set up well they will hang across you lap, or inbetween your legs if you knot sling at mid point) and harness to harness with quickdraw, transfer weight and release their system, then depending on device you may need to add friction, and descend.

    Although weight limits given on devices above mean they're not rated for two, I've found no issues with function or needing extra friction with 2x~80kg men, at your own risk of course if you want to try it.

  6. They are great for the jobs you describe, unless deep brash as not much clearance. You need front wheel weights if skidding anything large, and ideally reverse steer, and you're right about having a rotator on the grapple, much more versatile, and with correct geometry you can build a basic stack, I also have a drop down blade on mine for tidying up and shunting large lumps which has been invaluable. I don't think you'd enjoy any length of time on an alpine though! Shorter mans machine.

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  7. If you get one I'd buy an over run pto for it or your alpines gearbox may not thank you, but looking at the narrow hopper and single feed roller suspect you might not keep it long if you have to go anywhere near any thorn.

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