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only had 1 customer who said he liked briquettes and he burned logs along with them.

Kiln dried around here, Lincs, sells at £75 per cube TO the public. In fact last year I bought in 30 cubes at £48 discounted from £55. I well understand margins but the problem is that year on year per cube price keeps going up to the point I think the trade will price itself out of the market. But I keep hearing that there's no money in it.

 

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fuelwood express went bust selling at £70 a cube the guy who bought their machinery at auction is now selling at £70 a cube I mostly break even selling at £120 a cube and people selling at £50 are fiddling imo.

I believe the normal is 20% return but if you want to make money get into timber management where the likes of Scottish woodlands allegedly priced a job where they wanted all the timber harvested + £15,000 to cut 200 tons, decent sized spruce with logs roughly 28" across the butt

Just having a rummage and came across this thread, when vented is mentioned are we talking stripes all round or half mosquito/half solid bags?

We use bakers vented but they have become single use bags as so many of them are tearing when we tip them into the trailer for filling small nets, some of them even split when you lift from the stack, not sure there is any UV protection in them anymore.

lucky to get 3 bags on a truck with a crane mounted, we had to cut our spare wheel off to get enough carrying capacity for 2 cube bags.

you can always follow the free wood page on fb you get everything from arb waste to broken pallets.

Couldn't agree more. Try it, be positive, if it don't work move on....

I'm positive there is no money in firewood, if you work cash in hand small scale you might make something. all the estates who thought it was good idea not to put their timber on the market and bought processors instead last year, that's 2 of them round here sold the processors and on the phone do you want to buy some timber. by all means have a go with the kit you have, if you try to undercut you generally get all the trouble making bargain hunting complainers everyone else is glad to see move on, do a good quality product at a decent price.

under tarp it's usually 20-25% and if it's in the polytunnel then it's 16-18%

What is the rough price for a mixed load of cord per artic load

 

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would depend what you mean mixed, is that size or hard/soft, oversized hardwood I would expect £30+ and processor sized £45 £50 roadside also depends how desperate you are.

I had a customer complain my logs were too dry!

Just remove any form of connection with these types of people!

so your not bothered that logs which are too dry are a pollutant and inefficient in a standard stove?

it's also they don't know, just look at many of the posts around on social media it's all drier the better, or it can't be too dry, needless to say I've had plenty abuse for pointing out it doesn't need to be below 15% been blocked by more than a few people but it's good for your advertising if you can claim 10% below air dried logs nvm it mostly goes up the chimney.

so expensive when you can buy 2 builders trestles for £45

log stoves too are designed to operate optimally at a specific range of moisture content, typically 15-25% (wet basis) as this is the value that dried wood will tend to stabilize at if stored outdoors, under cover in the British climate, even if it’s initially kiln dried lower. Lower MC woodfuel can be burned perfectly well, and very efficiently, as is the case with wood pellets that are typically <10% MC, however that’s because the boiler/stove is designed and optimized for this range. I haven’t seen the specific EPA report you mention, but it is likely that a stove designed for 15-25% will not work as well at lower values.

Wrong colour??

as has been said burning too fast, you have people supposedly drying down to 5% and below I already posted the part from FC research on why you shouldnt waste time burning wood below 15%

I supply wholesale netted mixed hard and softwood 45x60 nets to a few places round me for £2 per net. I'm not near you though unfortunately. I'm in Gloucestershire. Rob

think your too cheap, I do 45x56 £3 + vat

had a few customers who tried kiln dried and said they didn't like them.

when I was weighing it I was getting 490kg for a 90x90 bag

it's about 3 1/2 cube to the cord I think. you need to take into account they cut 18" 24" logs so pretty quick for big production start doing 8" and see that plummet.

I use the 2" pins on the hammer drive with my meter seems to work fine.

Sad int it? I saw this bein done near me recently (birch n sycamore). Think you'll see more n more of it done in the future[emoji107]

 

 

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it's a council site and they had given us permission to cut the trees but then we got told the bat survey had been extended and we had to stop, 2 1/2 weeks nothing happened when we could have had it cleared, the guys with the mulcher were on site over a week that's 2 cutters a mulcher a digger and tractor and botex, we were cutting it for the timber so free to the council, hate to think what the bill is with the other guy.

can't remember if I posted this on the site but some footage of a travesty 300 yds from my yard site run by balfour beatty the little bit they didnt mulch went off to pentland biomass this morning they didn't even offer us the chance to buy.

this was this afternoon btw maybe it will head south if your lucky.

Due to weather and being busy delivering and bagging logs up I haven't been doing much processing. It also seems to be a very wet and warm winter so far which I for one am not looking forward to. Would love some frost to firm the ground up and boost sales!

2010 was mild late into december then jan hit us with -24, too cold to work & with christmas hols was off almost a month.

So far so good, supplier has been really helpful. Said I can nigh on keep the damp logs and have a fresh load coming up on Monday

that sounds like what you got is a standard delivery and hes drying more now for longer to send you because you checked the centre but then maybe I'm cynical.

Because I only buy in and sell on I need to a supplier who can offer a good product at a good price. I've only been doing this three years and been sold some crap stuff.

Storage is not an issue as I can just buy shipping containers, but i can't afford to have too much money tied up either.

 

 

 

 

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the title of this thread kiln dried 35-40% isn't a give away that your not necessarily going to get dry logs because it says kiln dried.

I'm on the lookout for a supplier of kiln dry if anyone has details please ?

 

 

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why kiln dried? if your not a producer getting rhi and plenty people on here offering air dried at same mc as good kiln dried, I have to ask why are you choosing kiln dried?

a bit of cut n paste from an email I got yesterday from the FC research I won't bother putting the whjole thing in:

I am certainly aware that most combustion equipment prefers the fuel not to be bone dry. In the case of wood chip boilers they will be commissioned for a specific range of moisture content, and log stoves too are designed to operate optimally at a specific range of moisture content, typically 15-25% (wet basis) as this is the value that dried wood will tend to stabilize at if stored outdoors, under cover in the British climate, even if it’s initially kiln dried lower.

In the case of woodchip boilers, if the fuel is too dry it can lead to higher levels of NOx emissions as a result of the combustion temperature being too high.

I would go barn option too and sit them on pallets couple of feet between rows, we leave enough space to walk up.