Logsnstuff

Reckon that would be for the ordinary funnel one needs with the Stihl cans, as they dribble. Save yourself the hassle and get a Husky Combi Can.

Husky combi cans are garbage these days, green spout lasts 1 fill if your lucky then it will leak tried 3 replacements all the same didn't last beyond the first day, sad my black cap one got damaged falling on the pavement it lasted 20+ years.

We use oregon in all saws always have.

theres a 257xp from the early 90's still runs after being run over with the forwarder and an 070 and 090 from the late 70's using 36" and 48" bars on these for any big diameter stuff that comes in but their fuel consumption and weight precludes daily use. and the valmet saw is 1991 I think

I've been trying to think if there's a creature I hate more, and whilst I can't quite make up my mind.

It might be the Horsefly.

Yep gleggs (horsefly) drive me mental been in the woods my whole life and never had any ticks till last year and i had 3 from moving pallets in the yard by hand. only thing I had to get them out was a spring paper clip then after I used it I read you shouldn't squeeze ah well off for a little nap this tired me out

I find it almost impossible to sell logs before october unless I knock 15 20% of the price so I wouldn't worry too much yet.

838 ex FC , lot 4! some time ago now but looks the same now as it did then:001_smile: under used sadly

we used to have a 6 wheel 838 they had weak boggies other than that was great machine hauled alot of timber out with it.

First machine i learned on was a brun 578 hated the 6 lever system

It's important not to think that leaving a pile of brash is good enough habitat, some bugs need to live in deadwood for upwards of 5 years before they mature and different species require differnt types of wood. There May be some wastage, but this is not always the case, and letting some of the nutrients leech back into the soil can't be a bad thing.

James

there is usually a rule to leave a certain amount of standing timber with the tops cut for birds of prey and the beetles get a good share of the timber also but some sites they trash the lot. I spoke to one of our old operators couple of months back and he had just finished a job they took the 4.9m logs and the rest went to ground roughly 85% wasted then the next job he's on is run for biomass and he's facing the sack if there's anything over 2" top D left in the rack.

I tried the bungee couple of years ago with softwood but you had to drive the blade so low to break the knots that you cut the bungee, now I just buy the sacks in £2 delivered sell them on £4.95

Everytime I hear that logs can be too dry and they burn too fast I just despair. Whole tree harvesting including the below ground biomass is not a great idea in my opinion. I believe that mainly in the UK trees are grown on poor soils where every bit of nutrients is important. As the tree grows the tree takes up these nutrients and they are mainly used and stored in the needles, if you then remove all of this you run into some serious problems. In Sweden they are organised and the biomass goes to large scale schemes where they collect the ash then return in to the woods. I cant see that happening in the UK, even if we did the soils under spruce plantations are mainly organic and cannot hold onto the nutrients when returned in this rapid way. Many soil scientists have warned against whole tree harvesting for many years but no one has listened to them. Sustainability is about more than just CO2.

I drive past alot of premature clearfells up here, it's 15 years since we were forestry contractors and it seems we were the last that new how to do selective thinning now its just flatten everything and its quite sad to see it. tigercats running out the woods with 25 ton loads not exactly kind to the ground either.

My bags shown above were cut autumn last year they are sitting around 18% when I tested a couple of logs about a month 6 weeks ago, they will get tarped in aug/sept when its still warm enough to evaporate any summer rain hoping to have around 1500 bags ready by the start of the season but alot depends on a thinning job coming up.

Picture quality is shocking but I have around 800 bags ready scattered about the yard and 350 barrow bags left over from last year

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You will always get some smaller pieces in the bag, I use it as a selling point, ie, to use as kindling and smaller bits to put onto the kindling once going.

 

One thing bothers me about these filters, certainly on my folding elevator it would need taking off at the end of every session. Not an issue if your machine is set up permanently but another 15 mins on and 15 when taking off on the set up/ break down time.

 

I try and set my bag so that the logs get thrown a fair way into the bag, the light bits then tend to drop prior to the bag to be mainly caught by a well placed wheel barrow.

 

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its held on with 4 bolts its a 90 second job to take it off, I put it on myself although the mat was added later which adds quite a weight.

the dross doesn't work as kindling for us when we experimented with filling the bags prior to the filter we had customers wanting refunds I lost 3 that I definitely know left because of it and if you get alot of the powdery stuff and mosses in the middle of the bag it works like a sponge and soaks up all the water if you dont get them covered straight away.

Thought I would put this up see what other people are doing to help keep the garbage out of their bags.

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Is 1 cube equate to 1 dumpy bag?

multiply the lengths 90x90x90 bags are 0.729m3

we sell currently £94.00 for 1 of these, we don't do bulk discounts 1 bag or 100 I'm going to charge £94 or it stays in the yard and we get orders from all over the country, I've shipped stuff down to channel islands and up to shetland. I do free delivery upto 150 miles with our own van as long as you buy upto 6 bags depending how far out you are. I can't get my head round selling a cube for £60 £70 I didn't sell this cheap 6 years ago. I do find customers rotate through the local merchants always willing to try the next cheap price but always coming back to us because of quality. I also charge £38.00 for the barrow bags I sell 5-600 barrow bags a year but I'd be happy not to do them at all most people who want these have the log store at the far end of a deep gravel path.

Hi we would ring it then put it through the vertical splitter.

I'd go this route also, we have a 2.5m horizontal but the majority of wood shatters this way and makes for pretty ugly logs vertical 99% of the time.

For me, it's a no brainer....kiln dried logs are far superior to seasoned logs and a pleasure to burn...and for around the same price. I don't really buy the environmental argument either since most imported wood comes in by container ship which has a fairly low carbon footprint....eg vs hauling long distances via road all across the UK which a lot of the UK-sourced wood suppliers have to do anyway and is no better IMO

 

I've purchased from The Luxury Wood Company a few times now and been thoroughly impressed. I haven't found anyone cheaper on the web yet and they seem to be the best value for money:

 

www.luxurywood.co.uk

 

Check them out. HTH

20% mc is 20% mc whether its been air dried or through a kiln the difference certainly round here is my 1m3 is £125 and the kiln dried is £160, I use a pretty high end moisture meter and my logs are usually 5% lower mc then the kiln dried until you get into mid winter then they all measure the same.

Never seen those bulk bags before either with mesh all round. Look good.

 

 

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S G baker were selling them but they stopped now they supply the white bag you can see in the bottom left corner of that image.

We have been using single tarps we found they worked better than using large tarps but we are going to have another go with some 5x6m see how they work out.

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Thanks Logsnstuff.

 

Too late I am afraid have gone for the Krpan. Comes with good sized table. Couldn't justify the extra expense of the Posch.

Ah well hope it works well for you, heres a pic anyway, it looks low because the spacer has been removed from the bottom reducing the height by a good 5-6" to allow splitting 18" stuff.

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I'd agree buy a moisture meter and with softwood once it's split dries in hardly any time, I split oak in late winter early spring and by oct it can be down to 15% . the advantage of filling bags over a large stack in a shed is airflow. I did try burning some 2yr old grandfather pine this winter and it was horrible.

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in my area over the last 6 years its gone from 5 suppliers to over 32 that's not counting the small holders and part timers working for cash that we see everywhere. never mind the 2nd home in miami not sure these days you can afford the first home. I do seem to be the only one who is full time firewood the rest have garden centres or haulage company's or joinery shops might be time to charge up the harvester and go cutting instead.

Thanks again Chris

 

"Big tonnage will mean it will spend more time on the fast speed (yes, a 13T will split pretty big stuff but need to be on full power/slower speed more often)."

 

Obvious really but I had not thought of this.

 

So looking at biggish machines that our tractor will handle leaves these.

 

Thor super magic 18

 

Posch hydro combi 20

 

Balfor 18

 

Posch appreciably more expensive but 130kg heavier so I guess it's built like a battleship. hmmm

I've got the old man working the posch vertical he splits about 1.5 cube an hr depending on the diameter. I recommend getting the table extended though we had the local welder add some wings to it and its now about 4ft wide so when you split something pretty large you dont have to gather it all from ground lvl again.

No until people realise you should charge the same for any wood the better. It takes the same amount of time and effort to split it and store it and deliver it.

I agree charge the same I do and I'm starting to get people switching to 100% softwood and giving up burning hardwood.

Ok thanks when I start advertising I shall be asking for £150 for them, im currently charging £55 for a bulk/dumpy bag, how does that compare with other people?

I did measure the trucks volume in cubic yards not meters, not sure why:001_rolleyes:

I charge £94 delivered 90x90x90 bags 15-20% mc

I pay 2.5k for an acre in the middle of a farm no sheds though. pay £35-£50 ton usually for mixed processor size and sell it £94 0.73m3 (90x90x90) 15-20% mc there's 20 other guys around selling for £50 a cube but 35% mc + they don't get people want seasoned logs not cut to order on the delivery day, they want it bagged not tipper loads for the mess, work smarter not harder as I read here earlier I work 9-5 5 days while the other guys are doing 7-6, 6 days and more and making less money. secret is break out of the tesco mentality that people will only buy cheap because for everyone who wants cheap there's at least 1 other who wants quality.