GTS

:001_smile:well done, nice work and enjoy 38, top course

no drugs, a we glass maybe....

Thanks Treebloke for your thoughts, its funny how mr vosa didn't recall any of this to me....

I phoned vosa today, helpful they were. They said to me this

1. If your over 3500kg at any point when towing, then you will need a tacho.

2. If you are within the radius/no chip own kit and over 3500, you need a tacho.

3. I you go off the reservation and are over 3500 you will need a tacho and an operators license.

4. I said I had a waste carriers license and had had one for over a year. He said that will do in my case as the operators license.

So to clarify, I go out light, I am heavy for an hour, I dump, we know that they are heavier than 600kg (as noted on page 1 or 2), I pay nice man at the tacho shop between 600 750plus vat for a machine and carry on laughing:001_huh:.

ok thanks v much

Thanks treequip, not ranting not stopped thinking. I just want to start off on the right foot. I have a 2700kg trailer at the moment, that's why I mansion it. I simply don't want to loose any more time in having tacho checked, managing that process, there's simply enough already to do. I would rather cut that out if possible and get on with earning. All the best

crewcab transit full of chip= 3.5tonne(ahem) plus 6" road tow at 750kg= 4.25 tonne, over the 1997 law, which is 3.5tonnes threshold for vosa to say you need a tacho. Even if your within the crow fly limt etc etc. If you google vosa up pops forums with folk surprised to get a ticket and put on notice. Correct or not please tell:001_smile:

Peter from Pro Tipper has written historic threads which say that, if your truck and trailer weigh more than 3.5tonnes then you need a tacho, law of 1997. That is what I have understood now to be true unless subject to exemptions. For domestic work then I doubt if you can justify any of these. I cannot therefor buy and run a purpose built landy coupled to an ifor tt85 as the weight of the landy with kit is 3tonne, plus trailer weighs empty 700kg so I am over the 3.5tonne threshold and require a tacho before I start chipping into the trailer. The MAM plated weight for this combo is 5.75tonnes (landy 3050, trailer 2700kg) . I originally thought that if I worked within MAM then I would be ok. 1997 or December 2012 rules or both may have been the point that this changed. Please someone tell me if I am wrong or right as the last 2 and a half weeks thinking time depends on a little clarity. Many thanks and please forgive the opening RANT

Hi yes if the total weight of everything (vehicle kit Trailer chip and logs) goes over 3500kg then I understood the rules to say that a tacho is then required. Is that right?

:001_tongue:what to do .5 payload, my dumps weigh more than that

I am tired of spending time, time, more time, money working at understanding red tape which is hampering my profit line, every step. I have just made the informed decision, through your threads, which shows, clearly, that should I have been pulled over by the good guys with jobs and pensions, that I wouls have had a large book thrown at me, hitting me midships. I write about the GTW of 3.5 tonnes, your own equipment, within the radius. No Tacho. INTRODUCE WASTE and hey presto shafted. Laws are Laws, there for many a reason, however I have just realised that my long tested choice of vehicle after much much deliberation has just been blown clean out the water. I eventually based my choice around my chipper and experience/time spent at present in trees and came up with a landy110 hicap with a purpose built back to house every tool I use towing a trailer tt85 soon to be swapped for 10x5 electric tip. Proud that I had come to a decision with the advocates writings wringing in my ears, ive costed financed and Tuesday going for a test drive. BUT NOW why bother. Lets just get a crewcab tipper with a cage on the back covered in a sign written tarp with one of those digital weighing scales so I know when to stop and tip. For my own personal setup its going to really now cost me in kit as I was going a different way. In time, I don't have a yard so everything comes out in the morning and away at night, I wanted to "set myself up" but already before I really start im setting myself up for either tacho wonderment or labourious lumbering of kit twice a day due to trying to protect my investments and profit. Thanks. Just sometimes.....

I have just bought a cs100 just late last year after a lot of help from the guys writing those threads you've read. They wernt wrong. Its won me work, enabled work to take place and is my first chipper too. If you have a mate with a 6"+ chipper and tipper then you will be doing bigger jobs where presumably you will need help anyway so why buy something big expensive and a liability? As you get busier then invest in faster equipment but for now, yes add on 30/40 mins to your day to what your used to. They don't cost a lot to run either. Ive put Lombardi Pops, Ash, Willow,Chestnut, Oak Laurels, all through. It doesn't like gnarly stuff, Ivy apple twigs etc or thick wet cypress but taking time with this machine is a prerequisite. Hope this helps, good luck

top job old chap, never seen that done before, didn't know you could on such a scale

:001_smile:That's what I have now, theres space for 2 vehicles so my trucks going to make the neighbours curtains twitch, better get some good books sorted out too

:001_huh:my wife has just said, "what that? on the driveway?"... drives v small...

thankyou Steve

Nice.Is that bolted down to your trailer or with a ratchet?

Wow, my local butcher has a merc luton for sale, old but tidy... wow....

fab, does it lock in so it cant be taken off the back by thieving tpots?

Chaps, I bought into a CS100 chipper and its very, very good at what it does. Its not a road tow, at the moment, trailers going to cost me 1k+ to sit it in. That's not my whole problem. If I want to match this set up to a truck then what would you do?

Current options are a 110 hicap with a purpose built back and a winch to get the chipper in, with an ifor 8x5 for chip/logs, or 2, a 55 plate tranny crew cab tipper. My work is domestic at present, only been going 5 minutes. Does not having a 4x4 trailer combo reduce your flexibility?

Many thanks:001_smile:

cheers Scraggs

Chaps, something came up in conversation today whilst trying to find my first tipper. There is a 110 that's having it chassis classification changed to 3500kg from 3000 whilst being overhauled. I didn't know that this could be done. Has anyone known of this in the past and will it effect ins. policies?

thanks

Please let me know too, as I'd like to know more about the details. Will wait to hear from you.

Let me know

All the best

Nathan

Hi Dorset,

if you ring Adam at farm and forestry ltd near coleshill-atherstone in Warwickshire and say that Nathan Robinson gave you his name, he is one of the good guys. If you google his details and give him a bell he is sure to have his neck up to his a*** in a hedge somewhere.... All the best

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