Tommy Hutchinson

Yes it is and if i am correct this can lead to infection of the fungi Nectria ?

There is a line of Beeches (this one is in the line) of about eleven that make an old parish boundary.

Tony are you thinking that there is a lot more going on here ?

The next but one up from this had a large limb failure last year in the heavy winds we had, so we removed it. There are also rot pockets starting to form on several of the trees.

All of the trees have a decurent form/crown with a lot of multiple leaders.

Very informative.

Thanks people

Interesting thread and again the tree poses more questions for use to answer.

we know that two of the causes of root girdling is when young trees grow roots in rounded pot or roots that are constrained for example and bad planting, but what in nature influences trees to girdle them self’s? (if this happens at all)

Some of the mature trees on this thread have adventurous roots growing round the buttress roots, why is this? does this mean the trees had no girdling when young but devolped them later on?

Sorry if this has been answered already I have read most of the thread but may have missed a post or two.

Thanks Tommy

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Good job.

Was on of the unusual cuts when the back cut was made below the straight edge of the gob cut, @ 3.52?

Could some one explain the unusual cut/s that he used?

Thanks

Tommy

This beech tree is directly outside the reception area at college and the branch with the bracket on it if fails will fall directly on to the building/reception area. This is also a very busy area at college for people walking under the branch.

What species of bracket fungi is it?

Is this just a saprophyte living in a decay pocket?

Should the college be concerned of branch failure around this area?

Are cannon bars not carving bars ?

Can you use carving bars for every day tree work (I thought you couldn't)?

am i missing a section on there website? all i see is carving bars,double ended bars, milling bars or extra long bars no standard bars!.

You say "ages away" I would say we cannot look at it like that, I certainly do not want to be ill at any time in my life even (more so in older age) and will take all precautions to not be ill.

I think that this thread may lead to more people wearing facemasks, it early days yet though.

Could someone post a picture of the setup please.

I am sure my doctor told me if you sneeze or cough up green stuff you have an infection often you will fight it off without medication. QUOTE]

 

I think that might not be necessarily true it might have been a reaction to the dust my body might of created mucus to get it all out, it certainly was not healthy and I will be wearing a mask when having long periods of time exposed to wood chip.

Yes hedgesparrow it makes you hypersensitive, which means I think that you will become less tolerant of the dust that you are exposed too and keep reacting too the dusts thus becoming ill more often.

Do we think that this is going to become a serious issue that the tree world in the UK and further a field will take up and follow through?

Some one already mentioned that HSE might have a field day with it (in a bad way)? but I am not well read in this area.

Is it more common than we think are there any reports of it from the past ?

We need to keep researching.!

Leather foot strap not velcro for the Geckos.

Some sources say its an endangered species, is it?

Carbon Gecko's with velcro strap, cant even feel them on your feet, comfy as well, great investment and as for being knocked around, carbon fibre is really tuff is it not ?

Wood/Dust Toxicity

http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic967858.files/wood_dust.pdf

The other day after cutting up a large oak there was dust in my eyes (which hurt for a long time) it took a lot of washing out and did not clear until I had one nights sleep. I also I have been coughing up this green/dark mucus (and I don’t smoke) I have had no allergic reaction or symptoms, but I am sure what has happened is that I have inhaled lots of particles of wood chip and my body is now ejecting it.

The truth is its completely unnatural to breath in what we do in our job so no wonder why we cough, become ill and have reactions. If you are wise this thread should make you think seriously about protecting your external and internal body from the every day dusts in Arb/Tree work. I am going too buy a pair of ski goggles and a dust mask right now.

This is a serious thread making us aware of the dangers to the most important part of our life, our health. Thanks for posting.

May be its been affecting people for a long time as in the information below it says that it is similar to flu, cold etc

“Its occurrence among farmers is estimated at around 6-8%. However, as many as 30% of swine confinement and grain workers may be affected because of their exposure to high levels of organic dust. ODTS is probably under-reported because symptoms resemble the flu or other mild illnesses. It also has a strong resemblance to an acute episode of the much rarer, but more serious disease known as Farmer's Lung, or hypersensitivity pneumonitis. However, careful medical examination shows these to be very different diseases. ODTS is mild and short-lived, although it may recur. If more than one person is exposed to the same high levels of decayed material, they may suffer ODTS together. Farmer's lung, on the other hand, is an allergic inflammation of the lungs. The rare individual who develops this disease has had prior exposure causing sensitization to mold. This disease may become chronic, disabling and life threatening. Thus, it is important to be able to distinguish these illnesses.” Reference: Occupational Medicine -- AgEBB

Should we work with a mask all the time when chipping?

Should we wear a mask when carrying out chainsaw work that produces wood chip ?

Should we wear a mask generally when working with dusts ?

This definitely an area that’s needs research because it’s a serious issue that effects us all.

Once again thank you for this thread.

PS lets not go of topic this it an imporatant thread.

Gives me a piece of mind for the big diameter trees (cutting the middle from the front), there actually was a little bit of holding wood there but not much, would of been nice to fell with 88 but i think its good to utilize a smaller bar/chainsaw if you can.

Yes I carried out a letter box felling cut for this one.

May be if I had two or three days just to rig it that would have been good experience as well but as I had limited time (one day) and my groundy was not experienced in Arb work and as this tree was especially dangerous I opted for the free fall, big limb dismantle.

Rigging this tree would of been a bigger challenge, which I would have loved, but may be next time with more competent Arbs that lessened the chance ofaccidents.

Yes the split did have an influence I reduced the crown in a way that helped it keep a center of gravity just in case. I would not want that tree to split whilst in it, I know its pretty unlikely but good practice and best to be safe.

Yes all in board step cuts and some gob/felling cuts on some of the big diameter stems that were of a more vertical form.

I would of been there along time if was going to rig it, would of been a crane job if near buildings or road for example. It took 7 hours to get on the ground.

As for for mess or dropping the limbs in a specific place, I was concentrating on getting in the correct position/s and carrying out the correct cuts so that I did not make a mistake, there was no dropzone which was good. Trust me when I say there was no room for error, the consequences of a mistake would have been very serious, injury or death, the branches had an immense amount of weight in them every cut has a lot of thought put into it.

It was very beneficial for my improving my climbing. I have only been up say six or seven trees and only then taken off a few small limbs so this was a big step up.

Well its not fully exposed to the public, but in the day i was there 10 to 12 people walked/ran by the tree. the field is used a lot by the public as a footpath. So its pretty busy.

Marc, yes you are right