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Are tech manuals for JCB available online? I would like to see how the JCB compares to these old Unimog 406's. Here is a link to SEE manuals. Unimog Hiab Manuals and Brochures - Hiab 550 I am planning to get a SEE someday and adapt it as a lightweight skyline yarder/loader to thin unmarketable stuff on steep slopes. Fire hazard in dry forest ya know. In the US we have something much bigger called a YOADER which a combination skyline yarder and loader. Would need to add smallish hydraulic winches and replace shovel with grapple.

No winch, no pto. Lots of hydraulics.

The JCB Fastrak is replacing the FLU419 (unimog u900). This site will be liquidating them over time. Here is the first few. Government Liquidation All have very few miles but are pretty old. I am planning on getting one some day to adapt as a lightweight skyline to thin biomass from overstocked Sierra forests. It is interesting that the auction is not restricted to US citizens. I have read that hundreds of these machines will be auctioned. Looks like dealers are going to have a lot of U900 parts.

The HIAB cranes all went for $8400. Thats a bit more than 9% of their cost in 2001 but more than I can bear. All needed some work but mainly they are being phased out. From my look at them they are too big for my little Mog 406 but they might run with the big Mogs. The fact that they are capable of remote operation and have fore/aft tilt seems valuable for 'off road' work. Here are my doodlings for different ways to mount and keep center of gravity in reasonable bounds. Google Sketchup rocks:thumbup:

Thanks for the pics niftysteve:thumbup1: Scaling off the picture of the Atlas and a picture of the HIAB, there is about one foot more height on the HIAB. I think this is mainly because it is on a fore/aft tilt pedestal with the axis of rotation 18" above the bottom. This would cause a higher center of gravity if mounted in the middle of the Mog. I think I would need to either mount it on the back or a trailer. I am just now looking at the bid price and they are about $1000 over what my budget would allow. Just as well I suppose but it was an exciting prospect for a week. Thanks to all for the comments.

Gee thanks for the comments. I should clarify a bit. The listed crane looks really nice but way above my means. My challenge is to have a small skyline yarder/loader (microYOADER) on the cheap but I am not opposed to putting in a lot of construction time. I have a lot more time than money. All the wood is unmarketable here in the US. Most of it is below 10" diameter but there are occasional pieces up to 4' diameter. It has to be buried, burned, chipped or given away. Expenses paid by homeowner. The military weapons trailer has a very strong 1' x 2' beam as a backbone along its 14' length. I paid less than $500 for it. I will pay less than $3000 for the HIAB delivered. My boneyard has lots of structural steel waiting to be used. This HIAB has fore/aft tilt cylinders which I think are necessary because of a serious lack of flat ground here in the Sierra foothills. My main concern is not so much weight but high center of gravity. Thus I would like to be able to fold the crane down for transport and pin it in place. The question for my dream HIAB is 'to be or not to be'. Again, thanks for the comments:biggrin:

I pull this four wheel rough terrain flatbed trailer behind my 406. It weighs 2500lb, has a safe working load of 8000lbs and air/hydraulic brakes. The HIAB 8108-2 was originally mounted on the rear of a HEMTT ten ton truck. I like the hydraulic winch attachment. The crane lifts 5400lb at 16.5feet and 4500lb at 20.5feet. According to my manual the crane (5000lbs) is too heavy for my mog. :blushing:Can someone tell me how large a crane a 406 can accomodate? I am dreaming I can adapt it so it can be carried flat on the trailer and unloaded to an upright position with winch and/or hydraulics. The slide/tilt off the trailer would have to be done on flat ground. I could mount behind the Unimog in a spider crane configuration. That is, add a 7 foot leg to the bottom support out the back and a leg to the Unimog sprag. Thus I would have 3 support legs and the Unimog sprag on the ground would make the remaining support. When not in use the Unimog could be detached and the crane stand on 3 legs with the boom extended past the middle leg for balance. Mobility would be compromised but this setup would be used for a few days at a time as part of a skyline operation in steep terrain. Sounds a little crazy but I like salvage projects and I think this could be done for very little money. Any suggestions or comments?

Thanks for posting that link. I plan to visit the manufacturer when I see mom on Mother's day. The Simplex PTO version looks good for my 406 Mog at about $14,500. At 3000lbs I am wondering if my mog can carry it on the front. The back is already loaded with a crane and Werner forst equip. Drying wood in half the time could make it possible for wood to remain on property cutting transport to market weight in half as well.

Does anyone have experience with the A/M 32K-4A trailer? A photo showing suspension would help. I am thinking this trailer should be suitable behind a 406 Mog for hauling wood or chips in the forest or on the road. This model is being replaced with a larger one so I expect more of these will be available at auctions. It can be towed 60mph and traverse rough terrain at 10mph. Bed dimensions 14' long x 6' wide. SWL 8,000lbs, empty weight 2500lbs. A torque box provides strength and rigidity to the body. Brakes are air/hydraulic with parking brake. Government cost reported $24k probably 20 or more years ago. More specifications at 17 - SOL:A/M32K-4A ROUGH TERRAIN TRAILER (05/15/00) Auction close on Valentines Day. 2330 - Trailers at Government Liquidation

Sooo... If you have a small saw and a big tree, how do you take it down? I remember a burned hollow cedar snag in the Pacific Northwest felled with a 20" bar. It measured 12' x 15' across the stump 8 feet above ground. Had to go inside. Had to use a house jack to get it to fall.

Thanks for the contact info! Will give it a shot.

I am not familiar with silage grabs. Can a silage grab drop a load of limbs or logs? It is important to make a loose pile with all ends in the same direction so individual limbs can be pulled out by hand days or weeks later. The chipping is usually done by others. Thanks

Thanks treequip. I was thinking of making it myself. It usually turns out less expensive to buy something ready made. But I guess shipping makes trade in used items expensive. Anyone have more pictures I can use as a guide? Thanks to all Paul who lives in gold country but is low on gold:blushing:

Saw the above title on ebay.de completed items which did not sell. Frontpolter Frontkraftheber für Unimog 406 für Forst bei eBay.de: Ersatzteile, Teile Zubehör (endet 19.12.09 20:39:21 MEZ) I want one! Do any of you fine folks know who manufactured the item? Unfortunately, seller doesn't ship. I read somewhere that one may avoid US import duty by shipping a hoisting implement such as this with a mog, thus offsetting shipping expense. Someone here in California got a Werner F70 winch shipped loose with a Unimog that ended up in another state. Is shipping out of Germany impractical? Any advice appreciated. I am in no hurry.

Thanks Stephen!