czhey

Some people make there own luck, some people make excuses.

Very interesting thread... wish I could contribute something to it but alot of it goes over my head....

I have been reading 'The body language of trees' by Mattheck, so how do we distinguish 'normal body language' and 'the body language of decay'.

For example I found an oak with a slight lean the other day, bark clearly 'stretched' on the tension side and 'buckled' (if thats the right term) on the compression side. Is this a possible sign of decay or something you would expect to see on any leaning tree? A picture speaks a thousand words so i'll try and get photos for you....

Charlie.

I would suggest that you should be paying somewhere in the region of £40 to £45 per ton at roadside for cord just now, especially for Oak, Ash, Beech etc.

VAT and Delivery on top of that too.

Hi

Sorry why is that?

Because its the 'market value'- what they can sell it for, or because of the costs of getting it roadside?

Thanks

Charlie.

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:confused1:Do you not have stop bars on your chippers???????????

My thought exactly... and if your glove gets pulled off and through the machine before you have a chance to press the stop bar surely your hands are far to close to the rollers?

Does that not look alot like this fungi Hamadryad was excited about?

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/fungi-pictures/13479-hamadryads-fungus-diary-46.html#post380145

Don't discount the 346XP at all even compared to the MS261, we have been increasing sales with it the last 2 years so that must tell you something about its performance. But hey, I would say that wouldn't I?!

Never tried the 261, but i LOVE my 346xpg compared to a 260.

Had it 18months and only had problems when i've done silly things!

Better feel and lower vibes than MS260. Cuts plenty fast for me with 15" bar, I don't think i'd use a 18" bar all the time, if you need it and don't mind the weight get a bigger saw?

Charlie.

Yeah, go for it, to be honest its a 2nd hand 2 stroke so it is always hit and miss, you can never tell how it has been used/looked after - offer £250 and maybe pay 300, you can get all spares on the Husqvarna Website for any model number, even the old models from the 1980s etc - good luck mate

Thanks, I'll see how much I can get it for he never uses it!

I don't think it can be more than 8 years old.

I'll let you know how I get on.

Charlie.

Is offering £250-300 fair?

Not sure how hard it will be to fix the fault with the off switch.

Thanks

Charlie.

Hi mate,

 

Where did you get the £520+VAT price for the 441?

 

Cheers

FR jones website £521.50 + VAT for 16" bar.

Chainsaws | F R Jones and Son

Charlie

what year is the saw mate?

Not sure to be honest, i guess a few years old, its not very new but not seen much use from what i gather.

Thanks

Charlie.

... with a 24" bar.

in 'good condition' except off switch doesn't work and needs a sharpen.

Thanks

Charlie.

Thanks for your help this week, really helped me out.

Customer is well happy, so am I!

Anyone with big lumps of wood- get Rob to come and mill them. He has done a top job, my customer loved him! He even managed to sort out some tricky neighbors when I wasn't on site...

Thanks again, hope the wood was worth the hassle.

Charlie.

Dont feel you should have spotted this swelling, it was subtle and the shot which displays it so evidently i selected the best angle and light to "highlight" what was not blatantly obvious, this is what i do, its my "thang"

I know, and you do it very well! Hopefully you can set yourself up so you can do surveys soon

Thanks very much for visiting the tree, and for posting this thread, hopefully some will learn from it as well as me

Thanks. Charlie.

the other trees may be colonised by root grafts, be wise to remove the ivy off the one at end of row for a look, its a bit "lumpy"

I'll let them know, but when are you going to be a self employed surveyor so i can give them your details to write a report.....

Here you go czhey, some shots from your pine, hope this is helpful?

 

I found nothing to confirm the two prior inspections of this tree which stated the pressence of Armillaria rhizomorphs, however phaeolus shwienitzii was present, also indicated by the subtle butt swelling and thinning of the crown which is symptomatic of root dysfunction associated with this highly parasitic fungi.

 

Its lean is to the road and considering its unsuitablility for the location, its decay within the butt and roots this is a perfectly justifiable fell.

Very helpful, thanks.

She is a bit bigger than i remembered

Glad you found the Phaeleous (and identified it!) and not Honey fungus. I had not noticed the butt swelling until you mentioned it You've got a better eye for it than me!

Will pass on the information to the customer, I didn't hear what you said about nearby trees, they may be 'under threat' aswell?

Thank you very much,

I will call the customer tomorrow.

Charlie.

I know for a fact my boss is looking to take a trainee climber on very soon, J& D Clarks AA aproved contractors, youll be with me if your learning the trade, and I am really looking forward to training someone up or just passing on the benifit of experience.

That will be a fantastic opportunity for someone getting into arb! Very jealous! Wish i could have started out with that kind of opportunity! Hope someone really makes the most of it.

I'm removing a dead walnut on monday the 15th, in north essex.

does anyone want it!?

would have to be milled on site with a chainsaw mill due to access.

PM or ask for more info if your interested.

Charlie.

and once again the tripe turns up fruiting on a failed stem only to find a new host! another one ive got to suss out for strategy, this ones an interesting fruit, i think its a bigger issue than we currently realise.

The only 'tripe' i can find is this :

Tripe Fungus | Wild About Britain

but your not talking about that?

oh yes! thats an even better photo!

 

thats awsome, thanks for sharing, to me that is the hardest hardcore fungi porn!

Lol, thats fine. Thought it was a weird one when i saw it.

I wont get to them till sat and they will be gone, and ive only the sat off so HAVE to go to cutter1s place to do my final shots of the hericium erinaceus and try to get a spore sample for the future research.

ok might be passing during the week if you want more pics?

forgot the pics

i dont care about the other photos, which at leats one of is very interesting besides the toothed one, for which for my money is a supreme find:thumbup1:

 

I think this may well be the aromatic earthfan, but the toothed fungi are so hard to come by i have not any experience of them outside of the hericium trio. a truly lovely lovely thing to see, you have made my day!

 

your last is a species of polypore (one i am still trying to work out myself, and interesting that yours too is on ash as are my three finds of it, a leathery and robust polypore that i will one day get off to kew, and along side is the tripe fungus.

 

great post, and the lumpy thing may well be the old man of the woods.

If you are interested in the toothed fungi i can probably explain where to find in Epping theres actually 2 about 6 foot apart on different trees see other one below

Polypore- If you are talking about the orange one in the last photo, there were quite a few on a fallen Beech in Hatfield. cross section of one below. They were small 1inch max.

Thanks

Charlie.

And a few unknowns you could maybe ID

1 and 2. Small Mycena ?

3 and 4, Strange 'spiky' underside growing out the base of beech.

5. under dead fallen beech

6. on (ash? oak?) stump

7. Closest i could get is glistening inkcap but i don't think so?

8. large white, on fallen ash

9. small, on fallen beech

Would be interested if you know any of them

not the shaggy parasol, nor the field, I will have a look see in a bit which one it is, but its stem is far to smooth and white for iether of those two

Could it be Chlorophyllum/Macrolepiota olivieri ???

Some from today:

1 and 2. Fly agaric Amanita muscaria (A first for me, thought it was too late to find them this season )

3 and 4. Beech Jellydisk Neobulgaria pura

5. Butter cap Collybia butyracea

6. Horn of plenty Craterellus cornucopoides

7. Common inkcap? Coprinopsis atramentaria

8. Amethyst deciever Laccaria amethystea

9. Peziza cerea?

If your going hunting in iether of those woods youll do well.

 

your ganos, probably both applanatums, not the shaggy parasol, nor the field, I will have a look see in a bit which one it is, but its stem is far to smooth and white for iether of those two, other than that, focus looks good to me, and the other idents from a quick scan look spot on mate! good submissions.

I might even have time to go to both

I will go back in a couple of days and take some more shots of the parasol if that helps?

Charlie.

Thanks for all the replies, i have been reading just not sure what to reply

It does have to be said...I don't, personally, think you have said anything you shouldn't have hama. I am very much with you and Arbculture on this one. If you feel that the client will reject the advice you and other professionals on here have shared, namely carry out further tests, seek further consultation/advice or remove the tree, then it would be irresponsible of you not to at least demonstrate to the client the reasons behind your rec's, after all they are employing you as an Arb specialist to make a professional judgement.

 

If the tree has no considerable targets and the targets which may be present are appropriately managed, then maybe you could justify retaining the tree as a habitat feature.

Sorry i should have said i was not asked to look at this tree, i was working i their garden and noticed the merip- i said i am not sure of its affects on oak, i'll try and find out for you, and pointed out the 'thin' crown.

I know your situation/client base is very different to my own experiences, IME people really dont want to hear that they need a £150.00-£250.00 report, a £350-£450 days airspading investigation, only to be told after that the tree is dying and has quiet severe root decay, that the tree is in decline and will probably not last more than 10-20 years anyways. So it needs to be felled/reduced at a cost ranging anywhere in the region of £500-£2000.

 

i am not however stupid, and wanted to go see the tree myself to help out with a second opinion, one that was based on the real deal, not a photographic representation and best advice on the evidence presented.

 

I know what merip CAN do to a cerris, i reckon its far worse than on robur, i do not know why as yet, but it definatley seems to go through cerris quickly IME, maybe the heart wood of cerris is less durable? i dunno and admit that which i do not as yet know.

 

but I am told the tree is thinning, has meripilus, and on THAT basis, I offered advice, to fell it, with fair justification, or to potentialy salvage the situation with a decent report and if reccomended in report, further investigation via an airspade which would be the next step, thermo is an option to asses the viability of the functional wood remaining too, but the airspade will tell us criticaly what physical state of degradation the root plate/rootcrown is in.

 

This man, has asked for our advice, he is rightly concerned and feels this descision is beyond him, dont anyone be knocking me for having the confidence and balls to stand up and offer a realistic set of options and to be certain of it.

 

There are enough uncertainties and ditherings in this business as it is, and 10-20 ton of turkey oak on a compromised root plate is not the place to be dithering.

too right about the money- thats all it comes down to with many people and trees.

I am very grateful for your offer to visit the tree, I just don't feel you should be using your time to try and help a customer of mine who won't appreciate what you are doing for them... i will PM you the location of the tree and you can visit (for your own interest) if you are in the area, but its the wrong end of herts for you.

Bundle- I couldn't see anything on the AAIS website. I will email.

Saw the customer again and she seemed to imply she wouldn't spend any money unless it starts looking sicker/dies. I have decided to email her saying something along the lines of: tree may not be safe, recommend air spade investigation at rough cost of XX... and just explain there is little info about it on oak- but give some info of what the effects can be on beech (ie say the tree could fall over while it is still alive).

Thanks for the opinions

Charlie.

This morning the first frosts have arrived, at least here in the south east, its going to slow things down a little, but also bring some other species out.

Surprised you had a frost this morning, didn't seem that cold

I've got a day off this week, any recommendations where to go hunting? I'm thinking epping, or burnham beeches?

Heres some from hatfield and nearby woods

Struggling with focus, and ID's!

1 candlesnuff - Xylaria hypoxylon

2 Clitocybe gibba ?

3 Ganoderma appalatum ?

4 Ganoderma australe ?

5 Giant puffball - Calvatia gigantea

6 Oak maze gill - Daedalea quercina

7 Shaggy parasol - Chlorophyllum rhacodes

8 and 9 Porcelain - Oudemansieella mucida

10 Shaggy scaly cap - Pholiota squarrosa

11 Yellow stagshorn - Calocera viscosa ?

Charlie.