What CS39 and CS41 allow you to do?

[GeordieBore]

Apologies, having looked its cs 45 arborcultural ground worker which is gained during 41 assessment. Sorry for wonky pic, first upload..

[stihlmadasever]

I am undoubtedly going to get hammered, but having had this convo recently, by rights, in that I mean under something going badly wrong and under investigation, unless you have rescue climb ticket as well as 41, you can not run rigging on the ground. To be a fully qualified groundsman on a dismantle rigging job, both clumber and groundie must have cs 41. Proof is printed on the cs 41 nptc certificate.

 

The guys not asking about groundie work hes asking what cs39 qualifies you to do in tree...ffs

[GeordieBore]

Read the op post.. what does 39 and 41 allow you to do, unless you have been in a 41 assessment situation you cannot run rigging. Hence not having 41 you aren't allowed to run rigging. Surely relevant to post asking for info regarding quals

[stihlmadasever]

Read the op post.. what does 39 and 41 allow you to do, unless you have been in a 41 assessment situation you cannot run rigging. Hence not having 41 you aren't allowed to run rigging. Surely relevant to post asking for info regarding quals

 

Hes asking what a climber can do if he has cs39 or is qualified to cs41 level,ground work doesnt come into it.

[GeordieBore]

Then to that I would state two climbers both holding 41 can rig, two with 39 can not. One of each cant either. Pretty certain I'm still relevant.

[stihlmadasever]

Hello. I was wondering what is your opinion on something...

I had a little discussion at work today about what a person is allow to do on CS 39 Use of a Chainsaw from a Rope and Harness & CS 41 Dismantling and Rigging.

 

In your opinion, would someone be qualified and competent to climb and 'dismantle' (cut branches in the crown back to the stem until there is only the stem to be felled from the ground, without the use of any rigging or lowering ropes or lowering equipment) a tree using a top handle saw climbing equipment, PPE and work positioning?

 

Looking forward to hear your thoughts.

 

Thanks for reading.

 

If you read the above and interprete what he's askin,its blatantly obvious-what is a climber allowed to do when he's qualified to cs39.

[stihlmadasever]

Thanks for the replies.

 

I just would like to know what cs39 allows you to do as a qualified person. Could you be felling a tree cutting branches from up the crown without using any rigging? I mean playing by the book and not breaking any rules.

Cheers.

 

Again the original poster asks what can a qualified climber with cs39 do in tree...

I answered his question in the next reply after the above.

I still dont understand why you cant grasp the fact that ground work has no relevance in relation to the op's question

[stihlmadasever]

This thread has now officially been derailed by 2 dicks arguing about rigging qualifications of groundies...im off

[GeordieBore]

Are you actually insane? In what you just "blatantly" put to me.. "what a person is allowed to do on cs39 use of a chainsaw from a rope and harness & cs41 dismantling and rigging". I made a seemingly relevant point about rigging. You chose to be an argumentitive and pointless poster, trying to tear down something that has no use to anybody. Question to you.. did you know that unless 41 and 45 were achieved you couldnt rig from the ground? Alot of people dont. Thats fine, my post was aimed to let the many people who run rigging (competently and safely) without the correct quals. This isn't a problem until something goes south and under investigation people through simply not knowing, could be culpable.

How in the hell I've ended up in this is simply beyond me..

[Victor]

Thanks for all the replies guys!