Oak tree rotting.

[Kveldssanger]

Sometimes we should try to take out our tree workers eyes and remember what the world looked like to us before we learnt this stuff.

 

Not at all. Learning what we have means we can look past the typical, ignorant view of many when it comes to trees.

 

The oak in the OP is demonstrative of nature; specifically the symbiosis of a tree and its constituent decay organisms. To skew how a tree should be valued in favour of anthropocentric qualification is absurd, so by suggesting it is, and I paraphrase, dull and ugly because people see it as so, is wrong from the offset.

 

We always make the mistake of interpreting tree value as something that must be equated to human values. We see it with TEMPO forms, we see it with complaints from people about how a tree is blocking light / getting too big for one's liking / looking ugly, and we see it on this forum also when discussing how we should put value to a tree.

 

This oak has intrinsic value. It is evident that it has started to occlude the wound by putting on wood around the edges, and as it has been pollarded the potential load on the crown of the tree from the wind in particular is minimal. As has been stated already, there is no reason why this oak cannot remain in some way, shape or form.

 

Removal of a tree is absolute. We cannot turn back from such an action.

[Mountain man]

Not at all. Learning what we have means we can look past the typical, ignorant view of many when it comes to trees.

 

The oak in the OP is demonstrative of nature; specifically the symbiosis of a tree and its constituent decay organisms. To skew how a tree should be valued in favour of anthropocentric qualification is absurd, so by suggesting it is, and I paraphrase, dull and ugly because people see it as so, is wrong from the offset.

 

We always make the mistake of interpreting tree value as something that must be equated to human values. We see it with TEMPO forms, we see it with complaints from people about how a tree is blocking light / getting too big for one's liking / looking ugly, and we see it on this forum also when discussing how we should put value to a tree.

 

This oak has intrinsic value. It is evident that it has started to occlude the wound by putting on wood around the edges, and as it has been pollarded the potential load on the crown of the tree from the wind in particular is minimal. As has been stated already, there is no reason why this oak cannot remain in some way, shape or form.

 

Removal of a tree is absolute. We cannot turn back from such an action.

 

 

 

"we always make the mistake of interpreting tree value as something that must be equated to human value"

 

How else can we interpret tree value in an urban setting? It's there for our benefit, (be it planted or left there by developers) to provide shade, to be a pleasure to look at, nesting for birds, insects, give us a signpost to the changing seasons etc, I believe amenity value is the terminology.

Once it doesn't do some or any of these it has no purpose and no matter how many college trained tree workers blather on about "intrinsic value" it can be felled.

(should the owner desire it of course!)

[Gary Prentice]

BTGAZ, nobody is make decisions, just playing the game, practicing if you like, a bit like all the "how much would you charge" threads.

When we're in the mood I think they're a useful exercise.

 

I thought the game was 'input' to support the owners desire to remove. So, my answer was that there is insufficient information, apart from some decay present and it's been topped.

 

Personally, I'd be looking to provide a lot more information in an application to abort the LA's reasons for retention. Which is impossible from the info provided.

[treeseer]

"Once it doesn't do some or any of these it has no purpose..." When did God die and appoint you heir? Even if tree guys were trained landscape designers, we would not be qualified to make these amenity judgments. Who do we think we are?

 

See the tree in 10 years; if pruned to restore form.

If the cavity is too ugly, then put a trellis in front with an ornamental vine or shrub on it.

Killing a tree just because it's been topped shows a lack of imagination, or experience, or both.

There is NO DATA that shows it's less strong than it would be without the rot.

Pruning for Preservation 1106 AN.pdf