How tree branches are attached to trunks

[IanW]

What an intriguing picture! Was it a Pine, and if so do you know which species? And what height would that slice have been at when the tree was growing?

 

It was either increments of 2.9m or 2.5m when I find these branches.

the tree is a scots pine, age of the trees range from 30 to 90 year old

[IanW]

here are pictures of another one I found.

 

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[daltontrees]

These are really nice pictures, I am going to have to contemplate these for a bit in light of new information (new to me anyway) supplied by btggaz.

[sloth]

:lol: but to be really cynical it has got him better known. Our tutor at Tree life read Matthecks recent article to us about Shigo's original work and mentioned how Duncan had apparently upset Alex's family.

 

I understand what you're saying, as after reading it a couple of times I'm still not really seeing the breakthrough. I think I need to look at Matthecks article again.

 

All good.

 

Hi Gary, could you tell me where I can the Mattheck article please. Can't find it anywhere!

Cheers...

[Gary Prentice]

Jeez Kevin, this threads so old it's celebrating its birthday. It's in a magazine if I remember correctly- which I think I have. Give me a couple of hrs and I'll see if I can find it.

[sloth]

Cheers mate. I've felt since Slater's article came out I haven't given it enough consideration. I'm just now making the time to look into it and see what to make of it. I searched uktc and arbtalk, and this thread was about the most discussion I found - quite surprising really, given the regard some hold Shigo and his work in. That and the fact it's the only major questioning of the widely accepted theory of branch attachment since its introduction in the 80's, I'm shocked opinions haven't been voiced more, particularly over at uktc where aren't normally shy about this sort of thing...

[daltontrees]

Oooerr, on the way through to the kitchen I just had a blinding revelation about branch attachment, but then I poured a glass of Pinot Gris and it faded. Something to do with what I researched for a recent question on Arbtalk about meristems, that now seems in the back of my mind to support Shigo's empirical findings. Brought on by IanW's pictures. If it comes back to me in the morning I will share it here. It, anything, has got to be better than doing my tax return.

 

Happy birthday post, by the way.

[Gary Prentice]

Sorry Kevin, it wasn't an article by, but about, Mattheck by Mick Boddy. In "The Arb Magazine" -Issue 163, winter 2013, pp34-35. Titled Clause Mattheck workshop - Germany 2013

 

The article describes Clauses updated branch attachment model, which was also covered later in year during his lecture tour. I've searched my PDF's and can't find anything else that CM has published.

 

Re-reading the article has reminded me about the lecture at Loughborough last May, his new model was the reason for the delay in his new book. He added it late in the publishing/translating process.

 

I spoke to Claus about Duncans work and he's very firm in his opinion, his exaxt words were "he is wrong".

 

I;ve a lot of research on this, so if you need anything else just ask.

[sloth]

Cheers fella, much appreciated. I'll see if I still have that issue. On another note, any word on the new book release date?

[Gary Prentice]

Cheers fella, much appreciated. I'll see if I still have that issue. On another note, any word on the new book release date?

 

If you haven't I can scan it. I asked on here in December about the book and no-one knew.